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Government & Politics

Posted by: debeli

19th Dec 2010 10:33am

can anybody trust our politcians, promisses before elction, and then after all sorts of excuses and lies to blind they voters


Comments 33

super88
  • 29th May 2014 10:52am

It is a fact that in Australia on both sides of politics, politicians say one thing and do another.
They do it time and time again and yet we continue to sit back with little complaint and vote for them back in on a new set of distorted facts and blatant lies.
If we keep rewarding lies with votes it is unreasonable to expect this to change.
It is not entirely the politicians that are at fault. They present the facts that to support their point of view and sweep aside unpleasant details.

When the voter fails to punish politicians at the polling booth for lies and deception they endorse them.
As a politician might say "You gave me a mandate to do it!"
"The public gets the government they deserve."
"We also get the government we vote for."

Sil sil
  • 22nd May 2014 08:05pm

I always remind myself that they are only human & greed kicks in because it's a business.

stewart bookworm
  • 22nd May 2014 10:24am

I believe that at the time a politician would make a certain commitment. Unfortunately situations outside their influence would cause a rethink and they have to go that way e.g. Conscription during the Great War.. In a way we all make a commitment in our lives which we have to change.

marcus
  • 16th May 2014 03:23pm

the coalition govt have really lied their way into govt.we have all had enough of listening to tony abbott and the rest of his arrogant ministers using the old excuse the previous govt,this does not justify his pre election promises which have now turned out to be nothing untruths to the voters that made him p.m.if the hockey,abbott budget is stopped by the senate and i hope it is,will abbott live up to another lie of going to a double dissalution ,i think not.abbott and the rest of his ministers fully know they would never survive another election.

JLKhalaf2707
  • 14th Feb 2014 08:23pm

No, I do not trust them. They are all full of empty promises and endanger people's health!

JLKhalaf2707
  • 14th Feb 2014 08:22pm

No, I cannot trust them. They abuse their power and their jobs. I also find it quite disgusting that they literally dither about all day long on highly carcinogenic fumes by saying that we can minimize them by having smoky vehicles retrofitted and taking them off the street!

Anonymous
  • 14th Feb 2014 12:52pm

no, you cannot, our australian polititions are making a global issue about campains, taking away the actual problems and replacing them with petty slogans in an attempt to win over the australian public.

bluey42
  • 20th Sep 2013 11:43am

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO they are ALL lairs FULL STOP!!! I would love to ask each and one of them why do they lie

pony
  • 26th Aug 2013 03:03pm


19chris51
  • 26th Aug 2013 04:05pm

yes pony I do agree with you, why can not they be honest, looking at the first telecast debate between K Rudd and T Abbot, it was a bit fanciful, I would still like to know where T Abbot is getting his funding from, he said and I quote "we need approval from the States to increase GST" WRONG it is a federal
tax and can be increased by a sitting federal government,
Some people don`t like K Rudd , and that is their choice, but I am telling you, you wont know what happened if T Abbot gets in; he is unscrupulous and UN trustworthy,.. atleast with K Rudd, we know what he is about, Yes they all lie and fill their pockets but I am saying Joe Hockey for treasurer........ That has to be a joke... he can hardly add u, for gods sake bring back Wayne Swan for treasurer............even P Costello thinks J Hockey is a joke, Now if Liberal are serious why did T Abbot become prefered leader, Malcolm Turnbull is a lot better choice.

Nefertari
  • 19th Aug 2013 05:00pm

I am of the opinion that there definitely should be a clause written into the Oath of Office that the PM takes after an election which would state "any promises made before being voted into office must be upheld and cannot be broken after winning office" or words to that effect.

Anonymous
  • 8th May 2014 03:15pm
All politicians should have to sign a contract stating what they say prior to an election they should implement If they don't do so within the term they should automatically be dismissed without...

If Tony Abbott had promised the austere budget we are about to get (& need) would he have won the election? We as voters, share some responsibility for subterfuge & broken promises. There are the "rusted on" supporters for left & right who decide who they want regardless of policy or performance. About 20% swinging voters decide the outcome of election. Many choose based on "what's in it for me " or "will this cost me". Responsibility & integrity are two way streets. Whilst ever greed & self interest are the motivators both of politicians & the voting public, lies & broken promises will continue to be the norm.

Stekel
  • 22nd Aug 2013 05:03pm
I am of the opinion that there definitely should be a clause written into the Oath of Office that the PM takes after an election which would state "any promises made before being voted into office...

All politicians should have to sign a contract stating what they say prior to an election they should implement If they don't do so within the term they should automatically be dismissed without their large pensions!

Anonymous
  • 4th Apr 2013 04:04pm

Yes my fellow Australians our Pollies are nothing more than Lying, Hypocritical, self serving, Puppets, of the Global Elite, that the Dumbed down voters KEEP voting in & out of office every 3 years hoping for change? Well forget it ALL parties are bought & paid for!!! Look around & honestly tell me that things are getting better?? This country has been Raped & Pillaged for decades with all our abundant resources and size of this country we should all be middle class citizens instead we are bordering on third world conditions. If you think that Australia is a democracy think again it's an illusion just because you can vote for Puppet no1 or Puppet no2 doe's not make it a Democracy a Democracy is where the Majority rule for the betterment of ALL not the minority!!! We are losing our rights & freedoms every day in this country by so called legislation that we the people are not even asked for our opinion on such matters. Fake terror attacks, illegal wars, Greed, Corruption, & the fall of our society is truly SAD we have forgotten our ways we must take a stand & make your voice Heard Wake up to the New World Order & Agenda 21 this country will be in the hands of the NWO very soon if we let them they have not invaded us like Iraq, Afghanistan, & other resource rich countries we have been taken over by Stealth!!! & we let it happen right under our very noses what are you going to tell your children & grand children when they become slaves in their own country??????? Wake UP for Gods sake!!!!!!

georgel
  • 25th Jul 2012 03:41pm

Most politician are only in politics for the money and power these days. They will lie and decieve the voters to get their and then forget what they promised. Many of them are proffessional politician who do university degrees in law or economics then work as support staff for government members until they can get preselected. Very rarely do they work in the real world. Gone are the days when they were elected members of the community that wanted to make a difference.

peterv
  • 30th Aug 2011 02:03pm

they're poiticians.What more need I say. they have only one goal and that is to stay in or get into power. Unfortunately we probably got what we deserved at the last election....a load of rubbish and more lies!!

anna
  • 28th Aug 2011 08:41pm

What do we all think of the business with the pollies now? God forbid, this beautiful Country is going down the tube with these useless politicians! Now it is POINT OUT the POLLIE who tells the truth! Not one hand up, wonder why? The only thing that makes me proud is our Servicemen overseas, they have given us an open cheque with their name signed on it! No lies there, other than the Afghan's on the boats trying to sneak into this Country encouraged by the great pollies of the day!

jjdrer
  • 18th Aug 2011 12:10pm

They forget that we employ them, that our taxes pay their wages and perks, just as we do the Govt. Dept. staff.
We attempted to pay registration fees part by cheque, part cash and they tried to refuse payment. The cheque had been made out in advance, and the Govt. "very kindly" increased its fees only days before it was due. The notice also came later than usual. They eventually accepted payment when they were reminf=ded that both are legal tender, and that we paid their wages. You should have seen the looks on their faces.

ianhnz
  • 18th Aug 2011 08:49am

Yes, well, if you can believe a multimillionaire, talking about how people on benefits can manage on a merger handout, I think you would believe anything.. My wife and I are on Invalids. Not by choose, but we are both very unwell and really struggling to make ends meet.

Bigfoot
  • 17th Aug 2011 10:28pm

ALL politicians are in the job for one of 2 things (Maybe both) power and or money. If anyone believes even half of what they say then they deserve to take whatever is dished out to them

Kimbo
  • 22nd Jul 2011 10:11am

For as far back as I can remember politicians’ of all persuasion have promise the earth to get in power then renig on those promises. The most used response is ‘While we were in opposition we didn’t know the full extent of the problem’ SO we must do a back flip on out promises. Where not responsible. Remember the ‘Recession we had to have’. Paul Cheating was wonderful as undertaker of the country. Note that a poly can wag his chin for hours and not say anything OR address a question. This is called party unity. Then you have the GREENS driven by minority BROWN who is the backbone of Julia and are a revamped RED party. FACT! Then we have the assignation of RUD by Julia. Although Whitlam by GG was probable better done for his mate Malcolm. Thank god that Bob outed him. And so the tennis match continues. You think that GST was a good grab for money, weight till Julius (COAL TAX) Gillard kicks in. You haven’t lived yet. Pay through the neck for everything. You bet!

Jim 007
  • 18th Jul 2011 05:55pm

Labour won the election,but only with support of greens and independants.Now if liberal party were in the same situation, what would they do.They would have done the same to gain office.By the way how much did the liberal party spend on the GST campaign,at least the carbon issue is good for the enviroment our planet. For our future generations our kids kids kids !Cheers Jimbo (:

Doc
  • 16th Jun 2011 08:39am

Oh so true & whatsmore, the standard of procedures in parlaiment has dropped to kindergarten standards.
Congratulations to all MP's you're setting a great example

19chris51
  • 18th Jul 2011 03:32pm
Oh so true & whatsmore, the standard of procedures in parlaiment has dropped to kindergarten standards.
Congratulations to all MP's you're setting a great example

Kindergarten Standards are better, at least the children are tought to use their manners

19chris51
  • 14th Jun 2011 08:11pm

I don`t think we can trust to many of them, they are all out to line their own pockets and bugger the other person or people, ALL POLITICIANS on ALL sides of Parliament, both STATE and FEDERAL

pony
  • 26th Aug 2013 03:01pm
I don`t think we can trust to many of them, they are all out to line their own pockets and bugger the other person or people, ALL POLITICIANS on ALL sides of Parliament, both STATE and FEDERAL

I agree all Politicians look after there own, even when they leave Parliament. they think us pensions are scum, and they look after families and aborigines. I thought we all had equal opportunities.

super88
  • 5th Jun 2011 05:33pm

" I'll never, never introduce a GST"
" My government won't introduce a carbon tax"
" No child will live in poverty"
The Australian voting public loves to be lied to.
It's been proven, Sure the public complain, but they love it.
Who will you vote for next election. See, you love it!

super88
  • 20th May 2014 11:20am
I agree with you but, we don't love it we think and hope they stick to their word, but how much are we going to take, we have to wake up and say no more, and be heard maybe don't vote, but then...

If you are prepared not to vote, you can get your name crossed of the electoral role on polling day and submit an empty form. I suspect the number of disillusioned voters that do this is increasing, but the figures are are not published.

However, I would suggest that we ignore the major party's suggestion that "a vote for a minor party is a wasted vote". Perhaps if the majors see their electoral base being eroded, they may start to understand they need to come up with the goods or this two horse race will end.

lilly63
  • 20th May 2014 10:32am
" I'll never, never introduce a GST"
" My government won't introduce a carbon tax"
" No child will live in poverty"
The Australian voting public loves to be lied to.
It's been...

I agree with you but, we don't love it we think and hope they stick to their word, but how much are we going to take, we have to wake up and say no more, and be heard maybe don't vote, but then again we get fined for that, maybe the government should be on a lie detection and every time they lie as they are promising something they get shocked hard

stretch
  • 15th Mar 2011 12:24pm

the oldest thing i can remember saying wise is
the only good politician is a dead one then the politician can tell no lies
we could always add to the pre political election broadcasts a lie detector
but most of them tell big ones and not always white lies either

Ritahayes
  • 19th Feb 2011 06:38am

Hi: I think Pres. Obama is doing a good "Da-" job. It is the republican who stands in his way trying to "outch" him from running in 2012 And, it is a "da-" shame. People should realize a good thing when they sees it. Wake up America Pres Obama isn't the problem. Plus, he isn't a "MAGICIAN" I give him credit for doing his da--est in these times. I am praying hoping and KEEPING MY FINGERS CROSSED he will get a second time better than the first time. Also, we need to put these Republicans in their place. Who could you think they would change after, "Bushwackers" x 8 years . Thanks for having me.

19chris51
  • 14th Jun 2011 08:44pm
Hi: I think Pres. Obama is doing a good "Da-" job. It is the republican who stands in his way trying to "outch" him from running in 2012 And, it is a "da-" shame. People should realize a good thing...

I agree with Ritahayes, Pres Obama is just terrific, he is so intellegent,articulate , is he does not get back in then the American peoople deserve another idiot like the last idiot who could`nt even rfemember his name without prompting, or maybe a clown like Donald Trump, now there is a laugh a minute, just the hair defies anything worth saying; PRESIDENT OBAMA ;-)))) I wish he was ours.

mumza58
  • 20th Dec 2010 01:27am

I agree, the last Federal and Victorian State election just show how fed up we are with the politcians. Neither Federal or State elections showed leadership or much in the way of polities. Hopefully they have learnt from this although I don't think so.

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