Do you think the covid vaccine will have negative effects on people who get it?
Posted by: renee2786
2nd Feb 2021 07:04pm
Do you think with the roll out of covid vaccines nationally that there will be negative effects or consequences of doing so?
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It'sOnlyMe
These vaccines have only been approved for emergency use and they are experimental. However, that emergency use is for a virus that has a 99.97% recovery rate. All companies manufacturing them have been indemnified for any negative outcomes by the Australian Government. They are technically not vaccines but really are a form of gene therapy.
It's a strange situation as the PCR tests regularly record false positives and were never meant to be used for any coronavirus testing as per the info given by its creator Kary Mullis. The media seem to fan fear every single day. They keep telling us there's 1 or 10 new cases but never state whether these people are sick, in hospital or just tested positive. We're then told that healthy people need to mask up and stay at home even though that goes against all science and common sense. Then insurance companies, including health funds, will not pay for costs incurred if any side effects are experienced because this is an experimental gene therapy.
None of it adds up to me. Even seeing that the Australian Medical Authorities banned the use of Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) way before the very first lockdown. In Queensland there's an $11,000 fine or jail time for any doctors that prescribe it for use on coronavirus. Many Governments around the world have ignored the many, many studies showing that the use of HCQ or Ivermectin work well to stem the virus. Interesting to note that if a medical treatment works, then emergency vaccines cannot be used and lockdowns and masks would have no use.
The Therapeutic Goods Administration has even imposed bans on healthcare workers speaking out against the vax/gene therapy. Why?
Is there a reason that the general public are being treated as though they cannot think nor ask questions and must be told how to act and live? Why is so much money being spent on coercion to take "a shot"? It's tax payers money but there's untruths behind the narrative. We have tax payer funded ads telling us to take the vax to help us and to do it to help the community but how does it achieve that end if it doesn't even stop the virus? Now there's all this narrative about different strains. Really? It's almost like living in the twilight zone with all the media fear spreading and government coercion. What is really going on?
It just doesn't add up. It takes some research and critical thinking but I long ago realised that politicians aren't there for our good and work for their best interests.
Unfortunately, I do think there will be negative health effects for some people choosing, or being coerced into, taking this gene therapy. I just do not get all of this hoopla for a virus that has a 99.97% recovery rate.
It'sOnlyMe
Wow, what a reply full of judgement. It's almost as if you wish to shut down any discussion and that you're coming from a place of the only one with knowledge.
I disagree with the way that you have chosen to reply. I also disagree with your views. I remain unsure as to where you're getting your information and I know that you're incorrect as to where I am gaining my scientific and medical knowledge.
I think it's interesting, and very telling, that you're advocating medical apartheid in Australia.
XmasRiver
Stop listening to Craig Kelly and Sky News. These vaccines built on decades of work, and got to us so quickly because unlimited resources were thrown at them, and because some lovely people were prepared to test it. This meant thar test phases were run concurrently, instead of phase 1, beg for funding, phase 2, beg for funding etc. mRNA technology is not new, it has been used in cancer treatments for over a decade. The USA the UK had emergency approvals because they were in dire circumstances. We were lucky enough not to be, and the TGA website clearly states that we had provisional approvals (same process applied as pre 2020) and you can also see the history of provisional approvals for a range of other drugs.
STOP spreading misinformation based on social media "research".
If you don't want be be vaccinated, fine, don't, stay away from the rest of us. No restaurants, no travel etc. Choose the action, choose the consequences.
musicmum
Yes definitely. Firstly it should not be called a vaccine because it does not give you immunity, manufacturers have said it at best can only lower symptoms if you are exposed to covid, who knows how they prove that. This is an experimental drug and anyone who has it is a guinea pig. It usually takes around 12 years to do the research etc before a vaccine or any drug is approved, there is no way they had the time or resources to complete the research. I would suggest to people to consider the ingredients used, how it was made, how they tweaked it, and what the virologists say about viruses. The main thing is viruses start out strong but then they weaken, they do not mutate, they do not get stronger, and they do not become more contagious. We are being lied to big time, and this will go down in history as the biggest injustice to mankind ever.
It'sOnlyMe
Wow. Another reply with judgement.
I hope that you're ok as your replies sound angry and seem that you feel justified in judging people.
It'sOnlyMe
Wow. Another reply with judgement.
I hope that you're ok as your replies sound angry and seem that you feel justified in judging people.
XmasRiver
No vaccine gives immunity. Polio vaccine was 50% effective, but it eradicated polio because everyone had it. The TGA website clearly states that we had provisional approval, using the same process which applied pre 2020. Try reading credible sources before spreading misinformation.
Ziah
It is far too soon to tell how the vaccines will affect people long-term. They have simply not been around long enough to have any data on long-term effects.
But I for one cannot get the AstraZeneca or Pfizer vaccines (for allergy reasons), so I have no choice but to wait and see if there is actually a safe alternative for me - otherwise I will have no choice but to remain unvaccinated and hope to heaven I never get covid - as it is highly likely to kill me if I do.
XmasRiver
mRNA technology has been used for cancer treatments for over a decade, and the other vaccines were based on existing research, with unlimited resources speeding everything up, so we do have a pretty good idea of the long term impacts. Also, it's a vaccine, it acts on your immune system. It's not a drug your are taking multiple doses of everyday forever, as you do with say blood pressure or cholesterol. I had Pfizer and felt like so had the flu for a few days after both doses, my Mum, who reacts to everything had AstraZeneca had nothing. I hope that everyone who can get vaccinated does, so that people like you who can't can be in the community without risk. Antivax idiots can stay home.
Dena31948125
I think the Vaccine will not be more dangerous than the Virus itself. Majority of people will be infected eventually, it is something we cannot stop, so getting the vaccine should be okay.
MagpieMay
I feel that more research is needed, rushing through approvals to get the vaccine out is all good and well. However what happens in five or ten years time with possible side effects? I hope there are no negative consequences, but I just don't trust it yet.
Madelaine31954568
I would be happy to get the vaccine after I have had children. There is no and won’t be any testing on the impact on unborn children. Having already had a miscarriage it worries me and brings my thoughts to the effects of past pandemic vaccines on malformations and still births.
MagpieMay
I totally agree with you, they have no idea how it will affect women who are in they childbearing years or as you mentioned any unborn children. I hope they do further research into possible side effects and consequences to declare it safe (or not).
Dena31948125
I don’t think the vaccine will have a negative effects. What scares people the most is that the governments are putting people under pressure to get it, knowing that its side effects are not known yet.
E!
I think there's a risk of side effects of being vaccinated or taking any form of medications, but hopefully most people won't experience any of it! I do agree that the governments are really pushing it to the people even though they are not as extensively tested as other medical products in the market. It is up to the individual to decide whether to go for the vaccination, all I am saying is take it with your eyes wide open.
mustang6000
No I don't. I believe that a lot of the doubt surrounding the vaccines has to do with the speed of development, testing and approval. We have to keep in mind that this was such an extraordinary need that labs put just about everything else on hold world wide to develop these and the testing & approval processes in a lot of countries were streamlined in view of the dangers posed by this virus. All in all, I would say that a lot of people did some absolutely fantastic work and need recognition. So, I will be getting my shot as soon as it is available here, with any doubts or concerns. I think any minor reactions will be worth the peace of mind, I also realise that we will probably have an annual shot for life.
ab
Renee2786, no I don’t think so. What's that based on? Hope, because hope in our scientists and world leaders is all I have. Only time will tell, if that hope was misplaced, if years from now, I along with millions of people over the world, suddenly find ourselves in grief, as a result of having had the vaccine.
Sadly, it seems this virus, like the common cold and influenza, is here to stay...returning with a new variant, to wipe out a few thousand people (like the flu does in Australia) every year.
I can understand the fear of negative effects that some people might feel about taking the vaccine, but if I were to hold that fear, what's my alternative? How long do I wait to be sure of zero negative effects, 7-10 years? Nope…I don’t think so.
I hope the consequences of taking the vaccine is that I can shake someone's hand again when I meet them, hug and kiss relatives as the occasion arises, and concern myself a little less about this new virus.
capfantastic
The worst effect would be that they do not provide immunity when exposed to either the initial SARS II virus or the other localised strains which are apparently more infectious. Also the so called “herd” immunity may not come to be. As with colds and flu, these viruses are passed around without the victim being able to become immune to a further infection. This would mean there is still a likelihood that we will become infected from a mutated strain even after vaccination has taken place. This is why social distancing and hygiene will remain important post jab(s).
capfantastic
The worst effect would be that they do not provide immunity when exposed to either the initial SARS II virus or the other localised strains which are apparently more infectious. Also the so called “herd” immunity may not come to be. As with colds and flu, these viruses are passed around without the victim being able to become immune to a further infection. This would mean there is still a likelihood that we will become infected from a mutated strain even after vaccination has taken place. This is why social distancing and hygiene will remain important post jab(s).
kidwithsmurf
I think the covid vaccines will have negative effects or consequences. This is because every country is trying to be the first to have a working vaccine. This causes numerous issues with the vaccines as it has turned into a race to be first and have the most quantity when it should be about quality. If every country worked together to make one vaccine, gave it the required time to test it properly then we'd be better off. This whole race to be the first to have a vaccine is what is going to make the vaccine have negative effects and or long term consequences that are unforeseen at this early stage.
The vaccine needs more testing before I'd even decide on getting jabbed.
Gerry1945
Australia still has not injected hardly anyone so far.
Doses
10,168 used so far. It will take 5 years to vaccinate all.