should someone convicted and sentenced have their human rights also taken from them or their familys

Milto

I don't see why anyone should be restricted/prevented from seeing anyone in prison or even be vetted for that matter. Preserve our freedoms!

grajac

Only those that commit the crime should have their rights to affected

Anonymous

It is not taking anyones human rights away from them by checking the credentials of visitors. It is not only visitors to prisoners who get checked, ALL visitors are checked before being allowed to enter a prison. With the introduction of drugs in prisons being the one of the biggest problems it is essential for the checking to be done

Anonymous

Families of criminals should not be punished, havent they suffered enough? as for criminals having human rights removed, I think it depends on the crime, in my personal opinion I feel murderers, peodphiles any sort of crime that removes someone elses human rights, deserves to have theirs removed

woolysmissus

People who are in prison have been convicted of a crime and the consequences of that crime requires incarceration. Whether the person is guilty of the crime or not is an issue for the convicted and his attorney to pursue. Families are not being punished by being required to adhere to visitation rules and policies. Inmates, guards and other people on the outside are being protected. If a person wants to visit an inmate regularly they should process the paperwork regularly so there is not a long wait between visits.

Laws are created to protect the population. If someone chooses to break those laws, yes, they do lose some of their rights as citizens. If families feel punished because they cannot see those loved ones who chose to break the laws, then that is an issue to be taken up with the incarcerated family member. You don't blame the law of the land or the other law abiding citizens for that.

lonelyleg62

Hi all,

This is just my opinion, but I'm a great believer in corporal punishment for certain crimes, rape, murder, pedophilia, breaking in and hurting/abusing the elderly and the disabled, at present all our jails are at maximum capacity and when this sort of situation happens then you end up with riots etc,

if corporal punishment was brought back in then these sorts of crimes would lessen as people would realize that they won't get away with it. It would also deter the younger generation from committing crimes if they know that they would get more than a slap on the wrist.

I'm speaking from experience here, in 2009 my house was broken into by the same person 5 times and the police were left with their hands tied because they arrest these people only to have the courts lets them back out on the streets.

I'm sorry if this offends anyone but someone has to state the truth.

God Bless lonelyleg62

Phoenixarizona

I don't think it is a matter of human rights. Quite frankly if someone is in a correctional facility then they cannot be exposed to something or someone who affects this correction.
In so many facilities there have been stories of drugs, weaponry or other forms of illegal things.
I personally would prefer a stringent system than a laid back one. Of course prisoners and their families are people too and they should be treated respectfully, but at the same time the prison system needs to ensure that they do not allow the wrong people in.
I remeber when I once visited a prisoner with my baby and I had to change my baby's nappy in front of an inspector to ensure I was not smuggling anything in. Was I happy about this? No of course not but I understood their reasons.
Great topic Queenie.

avanipatel

no if children & family are innocent

kirri

It is a very traumatic time for families and 2 to 6 weeks seems a long time. I suspect prisoners who loose contact with their families would be more likely to re offend.I heard of a programme in which prison parents recorded tapes of bed time stories for their kids and these were really important to the prisoner as well as those outside and gave them a reason to rehabilitate.
I think the authorities are worried about the crime families continuuing their empires via their visitors -how do balance that out?

Shay-Dee

There are reasons they check up on the families, and there are reasons for the wait. Thousands of people in jail with twice as many family and friends trying to visit. If they let them ALL visit without checking, drugs, alcohol, cigaerttes, knives and guns get msuggled in.

As for their rights, they gave them up when they committed a crime serious enough to be imprisoned over. Our jails are very full, people dont go to jail for petty crime anymore.

There are plenty of people in our society who do the right thing, work hard, support their families but they cannot afford more than the basics in life, YET, their taxes pay for these "poor" criminals to have the best of EVERYTHING because some people believe they should not be treated like animals.

Where is the fairness in that??

shar

The family wouldnt suffer if the dickhead wasnt in there in the first place. the person never considered anyone elses feelings when they were doing what they were doing til they got caught. Sorry to the ones left behind but wow thats the way the cookie crumbles

suzieq

I'm not up to speed on this subject, but I would say in this day and age, we all need to be checked out before we do anything.

The Bear

Human rights are an individual thing...everyone must have them, including criminals.
A society, a civilization, is judged by its ability to care for its poorest, weakest, and criminal/non-conformists.
Taking a person's, a person's family's, human rights...creating in-effect a 'sub-class', an 'inferior, flawed, un-trustworthy' minority, will only create angst, distrust, anger...and consequently escalating violence.
It is also human nature that, once a person(s) is labelled, catagorized and pidgeon-holed, particularly in a negative fashion...it is nigh-on impossible to remove said tags. That person(s) will always be regarded negatively and with distrust.

woosif

No of course not, good god where are we going with this, depends on the law broken I suppose too this is a very open question, if they have murdered then maybe some should but he/she still should have proper justice done but if they got caught speeding 4 times and did a week inside then come on of course not... too open ended question - all people deserve some rights but maybe some mor than others, but thats a hard one to pick what they can and cant have, glad i dont have to choose

GJ

Do the crime do the time and sorry to say this is for those close to the one doing the crime
GJ

sassygirl

Do the crime do the time and sorry to say this is for those close to the one doing the crime
GJ

True, but the famillies should not be made to suffer. I don't think prisoners should lose their human rights either. They don't become animals just because they are locked up.

carton

We all get checked out at some stage in our life anyway

blondie72

It is for your own safety as well as the prisoners. Besides, if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear.

ogg

In my opinion anyone should be able to visit a prisoner at any time as long as a) the prisoner wants the visit. and b) there can be no physical contact.

silvester

I agree if there in prison all their right should be taken of them

PGS

Going to jail can happen to any one just cause your in jail, that doesn't mean your a bad person it can happen to any one. Who are you to JUDGE some one else?? No one deserves to have their...

If one of your family members raped or killed, would you still feel the same? Unless you live in a dreamworld, I very much doubt it.
Currently the prisoners have far more rights than their victims. Is this fair or just?
I'm fully in favour of bringing back hanging where it is show the person was 100% guilty (eg: Port Arthur (can't think of his name), Ivan Milat, the packs of muslim boys that pack raped the young western girls in Sydney... & my pet hate: drug dealers & importers.

kittiles

I agree if there in prison all their right should be taken of them

Going to jail can happen to any one just cause your in jail, that doesn't mean your a bad person it can happen to any one. Who are you to JUDGE some one else?? No one deserves to have their rights taken away, i cannot believe that there are still people like you in the world and Karma will bring some one into your life that you care about that goes to jail and will still be a good person who does not does not deserve to have their rights taken away and especially not their families

Dogs

Interesting. Certainly the family of the convicted and incarcerated criminal shouldn't be punished. If they are punished, indirectly, it would be as a result of the actions of the convicted family member. Let he/she take ownership of that. His or Her family should take it to them (the convicted criminal) and this may, just may, reduce the percentage of recidivism. The honest people (tax payers) are the ones footing the bill for the punishment given to the convicted criminal

phinnie

If we fly, we get checked out

If visit another country, we get checked out

If we apply for government benefits, we get checked out

If we want to get married, we get checked out

Here in Queensland, if we want to work with kids, we have to get chcked out

And yes it is a lot of checking for a prison visit, but that is part of the price we pay. I visit - in a support capacity - and I have to get checked out too

queenie

hi queenie is waiting for some respon to against human rights topic come on australia and any where else for that matter lets show the government were not gonna let them punish innocent kids and familys or our loved ones who have already been punished lets go

silvester

hi queenie is waiting for some respon to against human rights topic come on australia and any where else for that matter lets show the government were not gonna let them punish innocent kids and...

I agree everyone should get check out by the government who visits prisoners you just don't know what visitors are taking in the jails,And yes there might be honest people ,but there is also dishonest people too. How do you judge which is honest to the dishonest so everyone has to pay the price

queenie