Australian cricket team shame

Bigfoot

The responsibility for this debacle rests on the shoulders of those who encouraged the ball tampering and the bowler trying to hide the evidence. YES we will have to accept some ridicule for a long time to come if ever, regardless of others who have committed this and/or similar acts of transgression and bad sportsmanship. The world has not yet let us forget the horror of the underarm bowling incident.

Nefertari

The responsibility for this debacle rests on the shoulders of those who encouraged the ball tampering and the bowler trying to hide the evidence. YES we will have to accept some ridicule for a long...

Hi Bigfoot....I agree...the bowlers had to have known about the ball tampering after all they were the ones who used the ball most. As for the underarm incident...well Greg Chapell really went right down in my estimation after that!

3lions

I totally agree Nefertari, James Sutherland should definitely go. I think there has been a build up of hate because of the way Australia play, I said it since Smith took over, they are arrogant, bad loosers, the sledging from the whole team is disgraceful. This time Warner mouthed off to de cock & got more back than he bargained for & cracked the shits. Darren Lehman to come out after that altication and say, that's how we play & complain about what was said to Warner was a joke. Then Warner to have a security guard near him while fielding on the boundary, seriously. I agree with Elgar their "pleasant" behaviour won't last, all the smiles and no chirping won't last with this current team, because you are who you are & they are bullies. I also don't think for a minute that this is the first time Warner had done this. He & Smith were warned in a shield game in 2016, so it's just Smith didn't have the gumption to stand up to Warner & stop it, as a result he & Bancroft are where they are now.
It's interesting to hear today that Smith might go to England and play county cricket, when Bancroft has his Surrey contract terminated. Maybe cause Smith has an English parent? Not sure he'll be welcomed over there.
Did you see "caught out" on the ABC?
Interesting to watch & see past players opinions. Worth a watch if you missed it.
They, the ICC, are thinking maybe they should be allowed to play state cricket. I personally don't think so.
Great topic, be interested in your thoughts.
Cheers
Lisa :)

Nefertari

I totally agree Nefertari, James Sutherland should definitely go. I think there has been a build up of hate because of the way Australia play, I said it since Smith took over, they are arrogant,...

Hi Lisa....very interesting comment. I had no idea that ball tampering had happened before in a shield game. It's a wonder that he and Warner were still allowed to play from back then. When I saw that Steve Smith might go to England my opinion was just the same as yours...he won't get a very nice reception there .. I missed out on seeing 'Caught Out' on the ABC but I have heard a few thoughts of past players and captains. If the ICC still think they should be able to play state cricket after all the harm Smith and Warner have done then that doesn't say much for the ICC either.

super88

I agree, responsibility for this latest sad saga reaches beyond players

super88

Yep, the fish rots from the head.
It's certainly rotten, that's for sure
Cheers
Lisa :)

For a long time Cricket has been run too much like a business, and too little like a sport.
The results you get are the ones you incentivise.
The saying
"it's not whether you win or loose, but how you play the game"
has been replaced with.
"It's not how you play the game, but how much you can earn"
Remuneration and incentives are down to management.
Sportsmanship struggles to compete against a big bonus or other financial reward.
But hey, CEO's have found a great way to justify their own big fat pay check and at the same time push responsibility down the line.
Time for senior management to fall on their sword, tell us what they should have done better, and show us how to play the game.

3lions

I agree, responsibility for this latest sad saga reaches beyond players

Yep, the fish rots from the head.
It's certainly rotten, that's for sure
Cheers
Lisa :)

AnxiousOne

I agree with you that James Sutherland has handled the saga very badly and that he should resign or be sacked. I think that it’s only the executive team, from those whom I predicted should resign, who have yet to come to that realisation!
I disagree with you that the Australian team’s reputation was all that great around the world before this saga. From most reports which I have read, cricketers from other countries knew that the Australian players cheated and had been making attempts to tell umpires for a number of years.

3lions

I agree with you that James Sutherland has handled the saga very badly and that he should resign or be sacked. I think that it’s only the executive team, from those whom I predicted should resign,...

Yes, I totally agree. As I previously wrote, Smith & Warner were warned in a shield game in 2016 about ball tampering. So if they are doing it a domestic cricket level, then I'd say it's not the first time. Australian cricketers are not really known for reverse swinging the ball, especially the kookaburra. James Anderson is the master of genuine swing bowling, yet couldn't get it to reverse in the ashes, yet stark could? Math I'm not having that. Warner is the I think mastermind is being a little generous to him, not sure he's that bright. The sheer arrogance to do that, is still astounding to me. They certainly have the holy than thou attitude.
Did you watch "caught out" last night?
Thought it was a great watch, interested in your thoughts AnxiousOne
Cheers
Lisa :)

Nefertari

I agree with you that James Sutherland has handled the saga very badly and that he should resign or be sacked. I think that it’s only the executive team, from those whom I predicted should resign,...

Hi AnxiousOne.....I was unaware that there had been any other allegations of cheating on the part of the Australian team but whatever the whole saga has left me totally disillusioned with cricket here and that's so very disappointing as I loved watching it