Pet Lovers

Do Animals have a Soul ?

Pet Lovers

Posted by: Hartmut

23rd Mar 2009 11:47pm

The question is to ask if humans are the only ones with a soul, and if so, why.

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ozycash
  • 26th Oct 2021 11:57pm

Only people who have been lied to and,or brainwashed believe in a soul!
No human or animal or plant or mineral has what stupid people call a soul!

uruz
  • 23rd Jul 2021 11:19am

Forgot to add, my dog is not only my best mate but also my emotional support as I have been diagnosed with PTSD. He has also been certified by my psychologist.

uruz
  • 23rd Jul 2021 11:10am

I firmly believe dogs and all other animals have souls. Why should we humans think, out of pure arrogance, that we are the only ones?
Am I the only one who has commented on this topic, as it seems there are no there?

uruz
  • 23rd Jul 2021 11:14am
I firmly believe dogs and all other animals have souls. Why should we humans think, out of pure arrogance, that we are the only ones?
Am I the only one who has commented on this topic, as it...

Ooops, I didn't see all the other wonderful statements before I post mine, sorry people. Uruz

Jamie31633748
  • 9th Sep 2019 09:34am

yes! They have a soul !they feel happiness and a range of other emotions.

Trisha 30587341
  • 29th Mar 2017 10:35pm

Yes I do they feel pain they hurt they have a heart beat they feel love they give love.

Trisha 30587341
  • 29th Mar 2017 01:36pm

I think they do they have a heart and they have feelings like we do

Trisha 30587341
  • 29th Mar 2017 01:36pm

I think they do they have a heart and they have feelings like we do

KittiCat
  • 23rd Nov 2016 03:06pm

Animals have souls, most definitely. They are God's creation too, and with no faults that afflict humans. They are always there for you and their loyalty is absolute. We have four gorgeous kitties (3 boys and and girl) and we love them to death

sen
  • 8th Oct 2015 10:13am

l believe animals have souls ,l have felt my dear little departed one' around me at times especially if l am sad or not feeling well .there is a very good book l have just read written by SYLVIA BROWNE l have read a couple of her books .she is a great animal lover and well known psychic.the way she explains it there is no difference between them or us .you may like to read some of her books. the one l have just read is called life on the other side l cant remember the other one name l read but it was the one she bought out before this one both very good

Instnx
  • 23rd Aug 2014 10:59pm

Yes & they have emotions too :)

racey1
  • 3rd Aug 2014 12:01pm

YES VERY MUCH I BELEAVE THEY DO AND I ALSO BELEAVE NO MATTER WHERE I GO OR WHERE I AM MY BABY BUDDAH IS ALWAYS WITH ME LOOKING OVER AN MAKING SURE I'M OK JUST LIKE HE DID BEFORE HE PASSED AWAY,I WILL HAVE HIM WITH ME ALWAYS AND FOREVER AS I HAD HIM CREMATED SO HE COULD COME HOME I BELEAVE THIS IS THE BEST MEDICINE TO HELP ME IF I DIDNT HAVE HIM I DO NOT NO HOW I WOULD COUPE I FEEL HIM AROUND ME ALL THE TIME,I DO NOT CARE WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK ABOUT CREMATION BUT I BELEAVE ITS BETTER THAN JUST BEING PUT IN THE GROUND,AT LEAST HE'S WITH ME FOREVER I DO MISS HIM EVERY DAY OF MY LIFE.

Sil sil
  • 3rd Jul 2014 02:24pm

I think they do, they must, how they learn to communicate with their owners so honestly and deeply, my dog would know if I was sad, he would just lay his head on my lap, when he passed I was extremely sad because I could feel a loss that so much greater than just a pet, so I think he chose me

Hartmut
  • 25th Jul 2014 01:11am
I think they do, they must, how they learn to communicate with their owners so honestly and deeply, my dog would know if I was sad, he would just lay his head on my lap, when he passed I was...

Hi Sil,

Of course it is always very sad when a much loved pet dies, but since you correctly know that your dog chose you - and had a soul, you can take some comfort in knowing that he is not really 'dead' but has merely moved on, or up, to a higher level of existence.

All the Best, Hartmut :-)

PayalGondaliya
  • 5th Apr 2014 03:03am

Yes I think animals have soul. I feel each and every living creature on earth has soul ranging from birds, animals, human beings, to any other creature. It has soul because it displays emotions. Animals cannot display emotions without having a soul.

Hartmut
  • 18th Apr 2014 02:10pm
Yes I think animals have soul. I feel each and every living creature on earth has soul ranging from birds, animals, human beings, to any other creature. It has soul because it displays emotions....

Hi PayalGondaliya ,

Considering that plants respond to music and voices, some say that even plant have souls, which , to me, makes sense because a newly created soul has to start somewhere.

Cheerio, Hartmut :-)

lindamart
  • 1st Mar 2014 12:05pm

yes animals have souls. I have talked to physics and animal communicators and they are just like us only cant talk like we do and they can be around us after they have passed.

bevie
  • 31st Aug 2013 06:46pm

Yes, of course animals have a soul. The eyes are the windows to the soul. Animals have eyes, and each animal has a different personality. I love my animals and I know they love me and their soul will go somewhere for me to connect to when they die.

bevie
  • 31st Aug 2013 06:46pm

Yes, of course animals have a soul. The eyes are the windows to the soul. Animals have eyes, and each animal has a different personality. I love my animals and I know they love me and their soul will go somewhere for me to connect to when they die.

sylvy
  • 28th Aug 2013 10:30am

I truly beleive they do. They are so caring, feel pain and also feel our pain.
If I am upset my Maltese x Zhitsu jumps up on me and checks me out, she doesn't settle until I do. I lost my beautiful Maltese x poodle about 12mths ago, he was 13yrs old. That poor dog he had all sorts of things go wrong in his time, but he was still such a great friend and very very spoilt. He used to always want to sit on my lap and if I didn;t let him he would hit me with his paw until I did. He passed away quite quickly in his bed, he and I were home alone. Since then I swear I have seen him briefly on the lounge chair he used to sit on my lap. His name was Zac and the one I still have is Sasha. Sometimes when sasha is on my lap she will come right up onto my chest, she never did this but Zac always did, I say hi Zac miss you buddy and then she gets down on my lap. So yes they do have a soul I am really sure of that

Sal
  • 29th Jun 2013 08:15am

I believe with all my heart that animals have souls. I have many animals and love everyone of them. My dogs feel a lot you only have to look into there eyes to see it. If animals feel pain,love,loneliness, emotions. Isn't that what a soul is? My animals are always there to keep me company and only want love in return. More people need to love and protect our beautiful companions.

Hartmut
  • 5th Jul 2013 03:14pm
I believe with all my heart that animals have souls. I have many animals and love everyone of them. My dogs feel a lot you only have to look into there eyes to see it. If animals feel...

Hi Onion,
Yes it is really quite amazing that a lot of people think (if they actually do?) that animals do not have a soul. While in the meantime they have conveniently forgotten - that we humans are animals too.

skyap
  • 11th May 2013 08:07pm

is soul and spirit one and the same??

Hartmut
  • 30th May 2013 05:06pm
is soul and spirit one and the same??

Hi Skyap,

Soul is a word to describe the essence, the reality, of who and what a person is - namely a manifestation, a part, of the 'Ultimate Creative Energy Source' ; popularly known as God.
The 'Spirit' of a person is his Soul, so both can mean the same and are interchangeable, like in:
His Soul left his body.
His Spirit left his body.
However, the word 'spirit' has also many other, more general meanings, like to describe a 'spiritual' way of living, or he is a 'spirited' horse, generally meaning lively, sparky, intelligent etc.

celiak
  • 30th Apr 2013 07:53pm

yes animals have a soul. this is evident through each one having a different personality and traits like humans and they feel pain and emotions. My dog had such strong sadness he would cry at sad events and when my mother died he cried for weeks and didnt eat. Animals in some ways are more compassionate then humans and are capable of unconditional love.

Hartmut
  • 10th May 2013 05:34pm
yes animals have a soul. this is evident through each one having a different personality and traits like humans and they feel pain and emotions. My dog had such strong sadness he would cry at sad...

Hi Celiak,
What you say is true, however, it does seem that with more intelligence (in any species) comes more negative behavior.
Chimpanzees have been observed to kill baby chimps and do other brutal (human like) things. Also Killer Wales (a dolphin specie)
have deliberately killed humans.
So we should not idolise animals, but respect all and be thankful for those who have formed a giving and loving relationship with us humans.

annie
  • 9th Jan 2013 07:37am

Yes I agree with the majority of people that animals do have a soul.I think that they feel happiness and fun when a dog is happy and wagging its tail and it can feel pain as well

koutabeck
  • 8th Jan 2013 09:09pm

Yes they do, beautiful, generous, loving & very sensitive souls....

simla
  • 1st Oct 2012 09:44pm

hmm,thanks Hartmut. Then it would seem to me that in essence, that if silica within a stone/rock has a memory, it also has a soul, (of some kind). That leads to the (box of worms!) concept of Silicon Valley becoming the ' Entity'- World Wide Web....has become a ' Being'. Certainly, we all know of the powers of the crystal. I havn't my notes with me at present, however you may have heard of the Shinto and some Zen sects believe that some rocks(perhapps other natural objects eg. special trees ? ) have life-like powers, can move unaided and are sentient in some way. Maybe this has led to the popularity of 'Pet Rocks' in the West?

Hartmut
  • 2nd Dec 2012 04:23pm
Hi Hartmut, on the concept of thoughts having the power to operate / move objects. As stated, 'if it can think, it also has a soul', leads one to the idea that our thoughts/souls, both animal and...

Hi Simla,
You are right, if we consider that ALL is ONE CREATIVE ENERGY (popularly called God, the Creator) and that we are a manifestation, a part of it, then it follows that whatever we do - or not do - has an effect on the Whole.
Ultimately, we are all connected and subject to the Law of Cause and Effect, which some poetically call 'The Justice of God' and from which there is no escape - because the overiding mode of operation to keep EVERYTHING going, is to keep it in Balance, which is displayed in the various cycles of fluctuating positive and negative events.

simla
  • 2nd Dec 2012 09:29am
Hi Simla,
Indeed, our thoughts are electronic and, if you have fine enough sensing instruments,then thought commands can be connected to gadgets like wheelchairs an artificial hands...

Hi Hartmut, on the concept of thoughts having the power to operate / move objects. As stated, 'if it can think, it also has a soul', leads one to the idea that our thoughts/souls, both animal and human, are somehow influencing what goes on in the world. I was wondering if animals, and ALL sentient beings are or could be influencing all the events, as a part of The Ultimate Creative Force. By treating our animal friends (and the natural world in general)better, we are helping them evolve to a higher level, thereby helping humanity and the world situation through Soul Power?

Hartmut
  • 15th Nov 2012 09:28pm
hi Hartmut,again an interesting concept, that of the All -inclusive Web-creative Force. I myself have never seen a rock (pet or otherwise) move of its own volition, but I have seen experiments...

Hi Simla,
Indeed, our thoughts are electronic and, if you have fine enough sensing instruments,then thought commands can be connected to gadgets like wheelchairs an artificial hands etc.
And, perhaps, The Ultimate Creative Force is a most powerful Though-Energy
of which we - and everything else is a part.

simla
  • 15th Nov 2012 12:40am
Hi simla,
I am not sure that a rock can move unaided, which, assuming it is a Soul that has just started on its eternal journey because it would not need to move, or want to, in that early...

hi Hartmut,again an interesting concept, that of the All -inclusive Web-creative Force. I myself have never seen a rock (pet or otherwise) move of its own volition, but I have seen experiments where inanimate objects have been made to move using 'thought-waves' as in the new wheelchair of Stephen Hawkins. Perhaps this is just a part of the journey for the inanimate object to evolve further up the ladder to animation? Yes, I agree with you that I don't think it is possible for a rock to move unaided, it would at least need someone to give it that first push, either physically or mentally.

Hartmut
  • 13th Nov 2012 06:28pm
hmm,thanks Hartmut. Then it would seem to me that in essence, that if silica within a stone/rock has a memory, it also has a soul, (of some kind). That leads to the (box of worms!) concept of...

Hi simla,
I am not sure that a rock can move unaided, which, assuming it is a Soul that has just started on its eternal journey because it would not need to move, or want to, in that early stage of its soul-expierience learning.
As to the 'World-Wide-Web' concept, exchange the word 'World' with
God-Energy (or the Ultimate Creative Source) and it becomes the
'ALL INCLUSIVE WEB' - where everything in it is a part and a
co-creator of it.

simla
  • 6th Sep 2012 12:01am

hi Hartmut, Im no scientist, but I agree with your concept of the cosmos, every thing being a part of the Whole.,as in ancient Taoism, which as I see it, coincides with the String Theroy of Everything, and the God Particle, as discovered recently with the Large Hadron Collider. Eminent physicists, Stephen Hawkins and Michio Kaku,agree that there are likely to be 11 dimensions..... this opens up a whole new field of possibilities of parallel worlds where we can only begin to imagine....perhaps these souls,both human and animals and may-be plants, exist in some form. I have been lucky enough to have owned many beautiful animals, whos presence I have felt, mine often appear in dreams,as a friendly warm presence. I believe we are living on the edge of a time of great discovery, we should keep an eye on the scientific news journals. The soul may not be long in making an appearance! cheers, Simla

Hartmut
  • 29th Sep 2012 08:42pm
Hi Hartmut, in reference to Professor Rupert Shelldrake's Morphic Fields Theroy in which he proposes that all things have a "memory", would it also follow that those things , whether ...

I think all beings who have a memory have a souls. The only difference is , in my opinion, that all souls are at different 'learning' levels and therefore perceive reality in different ways and abilities.
(just as we humans are )

simla
  • 29th Sep 2012 01:15pm
Hi Simla,
You are right, In short:
ALL IS ONE.
Meaning, we are not The Ultimate Creative Energy, popularly known as God, but certainly we, and everything else, is a part of it,
as...

Hi Hartmut, in reference to Professor Rupert Shelldrake's Morphic Fields Theroy in which he proposes that all things have a "memory", would it also follow that those things , whether animal,vegetable or mineral , also have a memory? If they have a memory, then perhapps they have a soul of some description? I feel that if something has a memory, then that qualifies it to be a "SENTIENT THING" as such. There follows a lot of arguments for and against, like the fact that the mineral silica[ found in most rocks eg. granite] has the capacity to record sound, and is used in 'silicon chips' therefore, it follows that if the eminent Physicists of today are right with the 'Morhpic Resonance'/'Morphic Field' Theroy, which led to the latest 'Theroy of Everything', it would seem that the Zen reverence for rocks and the natural world would not be far off the mark. The Tibetans have a special reverence and affection for dogs, especially the breeds known in the West as Tibetan Terriers and Lhasa Apso. The Tibetan Terrier is known as 'True Holy Dog of Tibet', they have a remarkable character, a very ancient breed of herding dog, not a true terrier. Both these breeds are very evolved, due in part at least, to their close relationship to humans. I have owned and bred both these breeds in the past, and would say that they are very wise old 'souls'...cheers,Simla.

Hartmut
  • 26th Sep 2012 11:13pm
Hi again Hartmut, thanks for your reply. Your post raises another interesting thought. As we are living in "Interesting Times' and the concept of Science Fiction becoming Science Fact, do you think...

Hi Simla,
In my opinion - we are always living in interesting times, at any age.
Some have not, but lots of Science Fiction has become Science Facts, like Arthur C. Clark's satellites predictions, in the way of -
"Before reality can manifest itself, there has to be a dream/vision of it first".
If you Google 'Size of the Universe', and, or watch some clips of it on YouTube, then anyone should realize that it would be ludicrous to state that there are no other civilisations 'out there'.
The difficulty of making contact with them is the unimaginable light-speed distances, even in our own Milky Way Galaxy - of which there are billions in the Universe.
My 'opinion' and belief is that ALL living things have a Soul.
And that would obviously include so-called Aliens. Of course,
there are no 'aliens' - in the sense that we are ALL manifestations
of the ONE all-pervading Energy Source.
Oh; yes, I would say even plants have Souls, - given that a newly manifested Soul has to start at a level it can handle; just like we humans have to start as Babies, or in the first grade at school and then advance to higher levels.

simla
  • 26th Sep 2012 10:32pm
Hi Simla,
You are right, In short:
ALL IS ONE.
Meaning, we are not The Ultimate Creative Energy, popularly known as God, but certainly we, and everything else, is a part of it,
as...

Hi again Hartmut, thanks for your reply. Your post raises another interesting thought. As we are living in "Interesting Times' and the concept of Science Fiction becoming Science Fact, do you think that if aliens exist, [as do some scientists like Michio Kaku ] does it also follow, that if animals ,humans and perhaps even plants have souls, that,being part of THE WHOLE, the Cosmos, with its Eternal All Pervading Energy, as such sentient beings, aliens, would also have souls? Would ET have a soul?

Hartmut
  • 25th Sep 2012 03:05pm
hi Hartmut, Im no scientist, but I agree with your concept of the cosmos, every thing being a part of the Whole.,as in ancient Taoism, which as I see it, coincides with the String Theroy of...

Hi Simla,
You are right, In short:
ALL IS ONE.
Meaning, we are not The Ultimate Creative Energy, popularly known as God, but certainly we, and everything else, is a part of it,
as explained or described by many;
like Professor Sheldrake's 'Morphic Field', Star Wars 'May the The Force be with you, 'the String etc. theories' and by most higher spiritual teaching.
Cheerio, Hartmut :-)

Anonymous
  • 22nd Aug 2012 12:06pm

Yes animals do have a soul. They have feelings too.

Ruballs
  • 20th Aug 2012 08:01pm

Animals definately have souls, you just have to take a look at the sparkle in a puppies eyes :)

damarapearson
  • 14th Aug 2012 09:12am

I definitely think that animals do have a soul..

Anonymous
  • 22nd Aug 2012 12:08pm
I definitely think that animals do have a soul..

I agree with you.

gd
  • 9th Aug 2012 02:42pm

I Believe that all living beings have souls, we are all on this earth together made by the same creator and when we pass away our souls carry on to the next place and we begin again - in what form or shape I don't know and whether we can remember our previous life I have no idea either - as this may only be my first - or perhaps its my 10th life . People have argued with me and said how can an ant or a fly have a soul - and honestly I cant answer it but who am i to say that only some of us have souls and others didn't make the cut .

Hartmut
  • 22nd Aug 2012 02:53pm
I Believe that all living beings have souls, we are all on this earth together made by the same creator and when we pass away our souls carry on to the next place and we begin again - in what form...

Hi gd,
Well, you could answer that like a child has to learn and start its education at a low level in kindergarden, so has a God-Energy manifested Soul, be that as a plant or an ant.
By all accounts we do not remember our previous lives because that would interfere with our relationships with others, who have reincarnated with us to resolve or learn from outstanding issues.

Anonymous
  • 9th Aug 2012 09:18am

I believe animals have a soul. Each animal has its own distinct personality. They care, they feel what we as humans are feeling. I own a cat, and if I'm upset, he becomes more affectionate to try and comfort me, if I'm in a playful mood, a lot of the time, he is too and runs around the house going skitz. All living creatures in my opinion have souls.

sez
  • 17th May 2012 11:19pm

Yes i beleive they do.
My grandmothers dog died when i was 6 (i'm now 31) and she came to me at night after i was dreadfully upset every night for what felt like a month (but was maybe only a week, things seem so much longer when your younger) she came to me one night when in was in bed and told me not to worry and that everything will be alright that she was happy and when the right time was she would see me one day.

longey
  • 23rd Apr 2012 03:40pm

I disagree with most answers. Humans were created in the image of God, so that yes they have a soul which may inherit eternal life as Christ promised. He, Christ, rose from the dead to show us all that we too may rise from the dead and have eternal life. But animals, although very loving, were a creation of God and indeed are living souls as Bible would suggest but that did not mean they had a soul that would automatically go on to somewhere else, such as a doggie heaven. Even humans must be striving to follow the life of Christ and be believers if they would expect to rise from the dead. No. animals do not have an immortal soul as humans do. But even humans may lose their right to eternal life. (Longey)

Hartmut
  • 17th May 2012 09:08pm
I disagree with most answers. Humans were created in the image of God, so that yes they have a soul which may inherit eternal life as Christ promised. He, Christ, rose from the dead to show us all...

Hi Longey,
Obviously you are entitled to your believes - or disbelieves.
However, if you say that animals do not have a Soul, then it logically follows that we humans also do not have one - because we are animals too.
We have merely physically and mentally evolved to a more higher level.
I would also say that you do not have to follow only one specific religion or belief to raise from the dead (to become a spiritual being).
The only thing that is required is that you live a resonable good and spiritual life - as best you can.

Anonymous
  • 16th Apr 2012 01:07pm

certainly, they do have souls. They do feel love, pain, and understand what human says.

dave
  • 9th Apr 2012 12:27am

yes animals have souls i believe they do

Anonymous
  • 5th Apr 2012 09:02pm

Absolutely not. Animals have a soul & a spirit just like humans. I agree with the belief of a cycle of birth & death (reincarnation) & not just humans are included. It just makes sense........

Tada22
  • 17th Feb 2012 02:26pm

If you have ever held and animal as it had been put to sleep, you can feel the warmth leave there body. I would like to think that that is their soul slipping away to a better place... some people might think that's a bit stupid, but I was sure one of our cats was "hanging around" months after he was hit by a car. he was very young and I don't think he was ready to go, and quiet often I would get the feeling of him rubbing up against my leg.

Hartmut
  • 30th Mar 2012 05:49pm
If you have ever held and animal as it had been put to sleep, you can feel the warmth leave there body. I would like to think that that is their soul slipping away to a better place... some people...

Hi Tada22,
Many people have experienced what you have, with animals and with humans.
It is the soul-essence that often lingers about for for a while, usually when there was a strong loving relationship.

Anonymous
  • 8th Feb 2012 09:41am

In my culture, Maori nation natives of (AOTEAROA) NEW ZEALAND we believe that humans are not the only ones with a spirit and that dogs too have a spirit.. us humans move, jump, walk, talk, laugh, cry etc.. but when we pass over we no longer do those things anymore and that our body comes to the end of its use or purpose, vacant, empty..... A Dog is the same, when a dog passes over its body too becomes vacant, empty and the purpose of its body comes to an end... from God we came from, and back to God we return...

Hartmut
  • 30th Mar 2012 05:42pm
If you have ever held and animal as it had been put to sleep, you can feel the warmth leave there body. I would like to think that that is their soul slipping away to a better place... some people...

Hi Atu,
What you say is true. Our physical body indeed becomes a mere shell at our death. However, our true essence - our spiritual energy (known as Soul) can not die and will exist forever; as a part of what is popularly known as God, which is the energy everything is made of.

Missmum
  • 18th Aug 2011 12:45pm

I believe all living creatures have a soul.

Phebe
  • 18th Aug 2011 09:07am

the don't have soul, they just have instincts

Hartmut
  • 7th Nov 2011 04:07pm
the don't have soul, they just have instincts

Dear Phebe,
Well, if animals do not have a soul, then it follows that we humans do not have a soul either - simply because like them we are animals too.
It is soul, as a part of the God-Energy that keeps, every living thing alive.
No soul-energy no life.

phiron
  • 17th May 2011 09:31am

Of course. Doesnt every living thing in its own way even plants?

Hartmut
  • 7th Nov 2011 04:12pm
Of course. Doesnt every living thing in its own way even plants?

Hi phiron,
Indeed, there are some who state that a newly created soul starts its eternal journey at a low level (like a plant) and then slowly evolves step by step to an ever increasing higher level.

dint
  • 6th May 2011 12:39pm

Humans have souls?

Hartmut
  • 7th Nov 2011 04:00pm
Humans have souls?

Hi dint,
Ha ha ha, that is a funny question.
Looking at certain human behaviors, I have asked that question myself.
But seriously, there are some who have stated that ALL living things have a soul, which is what keeps them alive and animated.


stretch
  • 30th Mar 2011 12:46pm

i find that a lot of animals have a lot more morals than most humans that i have known and so must have a soul
also if a person looks after an animal does the animal not look after the person regadless of age and sex

dachiemum
  • 5th Feb 2011 11:14am

Well now, this is a very complex question. However, whether you believe they have souls or not, they are humans most devoted animals and I know from experience that my life would not be the same if I was without that wonderful fur kid that owns me, one of my furkids died in September 2009 and for some time after I saw her poke her head around the laundry door, my furkids have a doggie door in the laundry door, imagination! I don't think so.

Anonymous
  • 30th Jan 2011 12:24am

Yes I belive they do. You only have to look at our cat and see her loving soul

Lady
  • 27th Jan 2011 07:21pm

When my little dog was put to sleep later that day I saw hundreds of small coloured lights dancing in the sunbeams in my dining room and I am sure it was the angels taking her home, I had never seen them before or since. Some other strange things happened when 2 of our other dogs died that I will write about later as I have to go now.

Jade Simpson
  • 25th Jan 2011 09:53pm

I do believe they have a soul.

tigersdance
  • 10th Jan 2011 06:40pm

I believe that every creature has a soul

Anonymous
  • 24th Dec 2010 01:26am

Hi All, I have to say "YES THEY DO", I have 2 cats with two different personalities and 1 gorgeous dog who I love all as my children love them two, My daughter at 4 years old says it his her dog, the dog will sit there with her in the dog kennel and you can hear my daughter laugh like she understands the dog. I would not be without these Animals at all in my life. They do have souls to me.

awsewell
  • 27th Jan 2011 12:29pm
Humans have souls?

Different individual animals absolutely have different personalities but a personality is not a soul.

gardenbutterfly
  • 9th Dec 2010 06:11pm

oh indeed they do. our golden retriever cross border collie is felt every time we walk through his favourite dust hole in the backyard. We will never fill it in!
when I am lonely or sad I just think of him and a warmth creeps all over me.
He was the most caring soul and continues to comfort even in death.

Hartmut
  • 24th Jan 2012 04:08pm
oh indeed they do. our golden retriever cross border collie is felt every time we walk through his favourite dust hole in the backyard. We will never fill it in!
when I am lonely or sad I just...

Hi gardenbutterfly,
Professor Sheldrake says that there is an all-inclusive force he calls the 'Morphic Field' or 'Morpic Force'.
It is what the Star-War phrase"May the Force be with you" refers to.
It is the self-aware energy in which everything that is, exists.
It is a non-physical vibratory force that connects everything - and every Soul, which is the non-physical essence of every living thing, is a part of that Totality and as such is connected to everything.
Sensitive persons can 'tune in' to that 'force' and connect to living or (physically)departed persons or animals.
And that is why you are able to feel your golden retriever, your friend, when you are sad. There is no death. He is merely in a higher vibratory level of existence, providing comfort, if and when you need it.


Anonymous
  • 8th Dec 2010 12:04pm


Of course animals have souls!

Anonymous
  • 25th Nov 2010 10:16am

all animals have souls they feel love they know how to give love

CURLY
  • 23rd Nov 2010 05:59pm

YES OF COURSE THEY HAVE A SOUL. JUST LIKE US HUMANS.

woosif
  • 18th Nov 2010 09:00am

probably they have paid just like us I think all living things animal wise have souls... just wish people looked after their pets better and cleaned up after them....

mummylady
  • 11th Nov 2010 12:39pm

Of course! You only have to look into the eyes of your pet and see the depth of emotion and love in there to know. And to get paranormal - my 2 yo old son talks about our dog penny quite frequently even though she passed before he was born!!

Hartmut
  • 16th Nov 2010 09:49pm
Of course! You only have to look into the eyes of your pet and see the depth of emotion and love in there to know. And to get paranormal - my 2 yo old son talks about our dog penny quite frequently...

Hi mummylady,
That is the kind of non-physical "prove", to few are taking into account, when it comes to the existences of souls in animals (besides forgetting that humans are animals too).

lisa
  • 11th Nov 2010 11:50am

Why would humans be the only ones with soul, we would be the only ones with tortured souls as we are the only ones capable of acts of cruelty to others and animals. Our pets have beautiful souls that love unconditionally no mater how mean their owners are!

Jenni
  • 24th Jan 2012 10:37pm
Hi Lisa,
Good point.
However, we humans are not the only ones who can be 'cruel'.
Chimpanzees have been observed to kill other chimps. And cats and killer wales
are known to "play"...

Chimps are he closed of the Apes to human beings and are the only ones to show mega aggression toward their own kind. They have also resorted to cannibalism in certain situations I believe. Soo close to human beings. Cat's however, are playing with their prey, not deliberate cruelty.

Hartmut
  • 16th Nov 2010 09:42pm
Why would humans be the only ones with soul, we would be the only ones with tortured souls as we are the only ones capable of acts of cruelty to others and animals. Our pets have beautiful souls...

Hi Lisa,
Good point.
However, we humans are not the only ones who can be 'cruel'.
Chimpanzees have been observed to kill other chimps. And cats and killer wales
are known to "play" with their prey before they kill them.

awsewell
  • 9th Nov 2010 10:44am

No. Humans do not have souls and neither do other animals. People believe in souls because they want to think that life goes on after death. There is no evidence to suggest the soul exists.

Hartmut
  • 21st Nov 2010 05:59pm
If I were standing in front of you I would gladly call you a bible basher. I know many people who follow the Christian faith, even a very good friend who is a pastor. They all know my stance on...

final words,
I am not a Christian, nor follow any religious faith. However, I thank you for proving my points (about your lack of politeness) so "eloquently" once again.

awsewell
  • 21st Nov 2010 11:30am
If you were standing in front of me you would not call me a 'bible basher' . Cowards and bullies always use anonymity to spread their belittling, sarcastic comments to boost their own ego....

If I were standing in front of you I would gladly call you a bible basher. I know many people who follow the Christian faith, even a very good friend who is a pastor. They all know my stance on religion, I hide behind nothing. You hide behind your online persona taking the hard line stance and trying to appear to be the bigger man. I have claimed no intellectual superiority, that has all been assumed by you. I do not need your response, there are plenty of other morons on the internet that want to shake their fist and defend their fairy tales.

Hartmut
  • 19th Nov 2010 06:28pm
Bible basher is hardly an offensive term. If you are offended by it then I think you have bigger problems. As far as your comments about the universe and God, as I said, I am not about to get into...

If you were standing in front of me you would not call me a 'bible basher' . Cowards and bullies always use anonymity to spread their belittling, sarcastic comments to boost their own ego.
Your comment "I suggest you start another topic where I more than happy to entertain your delusion" is just another example of your arrogance and ILLUSION of the intellectual superiority - you think you have.
So please - be polite for once, and do not reply to this comment - as I will not to any of yours anymore, - because I do not want to be 'entertaintent' by you in this or any other way. Cheerio, Hartmut

awsewell
  • 19th Nov 2010 09:18am
So, you want only people who are not offended by disrespectful, belittling terms or statements, to participate in a discussion?
However, I and I am sure most, prefer a rather more polite way...

Bible basher is hardly an offensive term. If you are offended by it then I think you have bigger problems. As far as your comments about the universe and God, as I said, I am not about to get into a discussion here about that, if you would like to discuss these things then I suggest you start another topic where I am more than happy to entertain your delusions.

Hartmut
  • 18th Nov 2010 06:09pm
Hi Hartmut,

Again, I suggest that if you are so easily offended by such a term then perhaps you should not be participating in online discussions. I find the suggestion that God exists...

So, you want only people who are not offended by disrespectful, belittling terms or statements, to participate in a discussion?
However, I and I am sure most, prefer a rather more polite way of discussions on this pages.
And by the way, our understanding of the universe is as extremely limited and as small, as is our understanding of what is referred to as God.
If people 'suggest' anything of what they think about what either might be, that is not belittling anything or anyone, it is merely an attempt in trying to understand the mysteries of our existence.

awsewell
  • 18th Nov 2010 08:54am
I ONLY objected to you of calling me a "Bible Basher", NOTHING ELSE!
Everybody is absolutely free to have different opinions and the right to express them.
But with freedom of speech...

Hi Hartmut,

Again, I suggest that if you are so easily offended by such a term then perhaps you should not be participating in online discussions. I find the suggestion that God exists offensive as it belittles our understanding of the universe but people are entitled to their opinions and I won't object to people stating falicies as fact.

Hartmut
  • 17th Nov 2010 06:58pm
Hi Hartmut,

If you are so easily offended then perhaps you should refrain from posting in online discussions where the opinions of others are going to be different to your own. The mere...

I ONLY objected to you of calling me a "Bible Basher", NOTHING ELSE!
Everybody is absolutely free to have different opinions and the right to express them.
But with freedom of speech should also come the responsibility to use that freedom in a responsible manner, - not with calling people who have different opinions or beliefs with belittling names.

awsewell
  • 17th Nov 2010 04:44pm
Hi Awsewell,
Although I am happy t that I could amuse you, I find that you call me a bible basher somewhat offensive.
As I said elsewhere, in the chat discussions on these Cafestudy...

Hi Hartmut,

If you are so easily offended then perhaps you should refrain from posting in online discussions where the opinions of others are going to be different to your own. The mere suggestion that a soul exists is absolutely unsubstantiated and therefore I am well within my rights to say it is absolute rubbish. The definition of a soul varies greatly between religions and even between people of the same religion as is apparant by the discussion here. To claim something exists when it cannot even be defined absolutely is laughable.

Hartmut
  • 17th Nov 2010 03:33pm
Hi Hartmut,

I find it amusing that bible bashers always read the word "prove" where it is not written. I said nothing of proof, science does not work with proofs, it works with evidence....

Hi Awsewell,
Although I am happy t that I could amuse you, I find that you call me a bible basher somewhat offensive.
As I said elsewhere, in the chat discussions on these Cafestudy pages we should reply to any comment with respect and friendliness.
If you like ridiculing a person's comment, religion or spiritual belief 'amusing' I suggest you join a YouTube discussion.

awsewell
  • 17th Nov 2010 08:29am
Hi awsewell,
Can you prove the color red to a blind person?
Just because we can not prove something - does not necessarily mean it does not exist.
Also, it is not possible to "prove"...

Hi Hartmut,

I find it amusing that bible bashers always read the word "prove" where it is not written. I said nothing of proof, science does not work with proofs, it works with evidence. I'm not about to get into a debate about religion but the concept of a soul is purely religious. Many religions base their ideologies on the concept of a soul because it introduces an element of the unknown into the equation which can be used to manipulate people. Take Christianity for example, the only way to control people is to tell them that their actions in life will affect the fate of their soul in the afterlife. Without a soul people would have no reason to follow the teachings of the bible. By basing the teachings on things that can neither be proven nor disproven, it leaves enough questions in people's minds that they take the safer option which is to follow rather than reject the teachings.

As for your question of proof, can you even prove that you exist? There is no possible way to do it without any doubt. This is why science does not rely on proofs, no matter how convincing the evidence, there is no absolute proof. You standing in front of me does not prove you exist, it is possible (though highly unlikely) that you are a figment of my imagination, it is possible that all I see and experience are simply in my mind. There is no such thing as absolute proof.

Hartmut
  • 16th Nov 2010 09:30pm
No. Humans do not have souls and neither do other animals. People believe in souls because they want to think that life goes on after death. There is no evidence to suggest the soul exists.

Hi awsewell,
Can you prove the color red to a blind person?
Just because we can not prove something - does not necessarily mean it does not exist.
Also, it is not possible to "prove" that which is not of a physical nature, except (like with the invisible electricity - or Love ) by the physical effects it may have on you.
As to the prove of the existence of the Soul, one may want to check out (via reading or Google) the various reported cases of reincarnation, the near-death experiences where an unconscious person describes the operation on him, the 'white tunnel' visions, the descriptions of 'Flying' and being only connected to the physical body by what is poetically called the 'silver-cord' - or some of the more scientific research books on the subject .

PukPuk
  • 26th Oct 2010 10:18am

Animals have souls based on instinct. Humans have souls based on the ability to reason. The only difference is that animals always use their instinct.

Jenni
  • 24th Jan 2012 10:50pm
Animals have souls based on instinct. Humans have souls based on the ability to reason. The only difference is that animals always use their instinct.

Just a question, how come their instinct works better than our reason. Is it reason that has caused man to destroy most of our planets natural habitat for so many species. Most probably, economic reasoning. If humans were more advanced they would be able to see beyond that.

Hartmut
  • 16th Nov 2010 08:35pm
Animals have souls based on instinct. Humans have souls based on the ability to reason. The only difference is that animals always use their instinct.

Hi PukPuk,
I would say, souls operate not only on reason or instinct, but also on a variety of positive and negative feelings and emotions.

terribrown
  • 3rd Aug 2010 01:25pm

Wow.
From a one line discussion question - that has got to be the topic of the year!!!!
It is so refreshing to hear so much imput to such a simple but all emcompassing question.
Good one - Hartmut.

Hartmut
  • 10th Aug 2010 03:12pm
Wow.
From a one line discussion question - that has got to be the topic of the year!!!!
It is so refreshing to hear so much imput to such a simple but all emcompassing question.
Good...

Hi terribrown,
Thank you for your kind comment.
Just the other day I said to someone, 'If people only knew who they really are, (namely a manifestation, a part of God) then they would behave very differently and a great number of the negative things that are going on in this world would not happen.

Wendy
  • 17th Mar 2010 04:19pm

I do so hope animals have a soul, they deserve one

Hartmut
  • 23rd Apr 2010 03:47pm
I do so hope animals have a soul, they deserve one

Hi Wendy,
Every thing that exists is a creation of the unimaginable God-Force. All living creatures have and deserves a soul, because they are a part, a spark and a glorious manifestation of what is known as God.
Ultimately, there is no separation - All is ONE and one is ALL.



queenie
  • 4th Mar 2010 04:34pm

yes i agree also if they feel pain then they have a soul like us

lamyaa
  • 18th Dec 2009 11:58pm

Im 100% sure that animals have a soul otherwise they wouldn't feel pain and in my opinion if animals go through brith and death then thats clear right now animal have a soul.

greece
  • 24th Jul 2009 09:19pm

yes they do as they are in the garden of eden

Anonymous
  • 4th Jun 2009 10:39am

I personally believe animals have souls. I believe that humans are fallen creatures and because of their sinful nature, they need Jesus Christ as their saviour to be able to connect with God. When a human dies, if they have been saved through their faith in Jesus Christ, they will receive the promise of eternal life in Paradise with Him. (For example, the thief hanging on the cross beside Jesus, who Jesus spoke to). If a human dies and has chosen to reject Jesus Christ, the Bible teaches they are eternally separated from God in a place called Hell, where 'the worms that eat them never die'. God has allowed some people to witness this place and tell others about it - check out the book, 'Divine Revelation of Hell' and see what you think.
As for animals - I don't believe they are fallen. I believe they live in our fallen world and suffer because of the curse brought on the earth by human sin. I believe they are loved by God. He says not even a sparrow falls to the ground without His being aware of it. I believe they have souls, because of the example in the Bible where a man was possessed by demons and Jesus sent the demons into the pigs. The whole massive herd of pigs all rushed down into the water and drowned, under the influence of those demons. I've also heard of someone currently, who is experienced in praying for people to be set free from demons, and he noticed that sometimes his cat was behaving strangely, and realised that sometimes the demons were going into his cat, after they had left the person he had been praying for. So then he had to pray for his cat, too.
I suspect that animals wouldn't be affected by demons if they didn't have a soul. I choose to hang on to the hope that one day I will see all my loved pets again, in Heaven. And even all the extinct species I hope will be there too! "For no eye has seen, no eye has heard, what He has prepared for those who love Him.' Thanks for reading my response. :)

Jenni
  • 24th Jan 2012 10:27pm
I do so hope animals have a soul, they deserve one

It would be wonderful to see all of the extinct species one day, the majority of which mankind have destroyed. So many species vulnerable now largely due to the exploits of humans - progress at any cost. I believe, after the destruction that man kind has caused to our planet we can not possibly profess to have souls if we believe animals do not, the reverse is far more likely.

Hartmut
  • 26th Jun 2009 05:22pm
I do so hope animals have a soul, they deserve one

Hi mamaof2,
Jesus said: "In my Father's House are Many Mansions."
Spiritual leaders refer to them as the Higher or Lower God Levels which are above the Physical Universe. According to those spiritual sources you will definitely see your pets again, and if you want to see them, the extinct animals as well.

However, since everything is a manifestation of the God-Energy, humans are not fallen or sinful creatures. They are all to often merely ignorant and make mistakes. God is an unimaginable aware God-Energy beyond our human understanding - not a petty revengeful being that puts his own creations into a hell forever, or separates them eternally from ITself !
The wrathful God, hell, demon, sin-guilt scenario was created by religions or religious leaders to put fear into the hearts of people - in order to have easy control over them.
The only hell there is, is our own self created negative, ignorant thinking and the results of it.

Trishii
  • 27th May 2009 02:31pm

Of course animals have a soul. We are animals, and we have as soul, so therefore it will be the same for them!

greece
  • 4th May 2009 08:38pm

animals do have souls as god created them in his image as there are plenty of animals in heaven and god has a place for them in eden.

pete 9
  • 3rd May 2009 10:51pm

The question posed is relevant only to those who posses the insight to feel. The soul in humans can often imprint upon another. If you have every been touch by an animal, and I am talking about heart felt in some manner and not just a human being, I would see this was the anser to the question. Soul is in relation to something we fel has touched us in a way was in unexplainable in terms of physical presence.Animals have been known to have saved peoples lives, by knowing they are in danger. My answer would be yes animals have souls.

Jazzie
  • 2nd May 2009 12:05pm

I think animals are just like humans, they have emotions and feelings.

fieldmice
  • 30th Apr 2009 12:23pm

I have a verse called Rainbow Bridge.This states that all the animals that we share our lives with & die wait for us at a place called Rainbow Bridge,living in peace & harmony with all things that have passed on.When we die those animals that gave us so much love & pleasure on this living earth meet us at Rainbow Bridge when our time has come & cross that Bridge with us to whatever lies beyond.

Willie
  • 29th Apr 2009 08:59pm

Yes animals do have Soul that is why they feel pain

Hartmut
  • 29th Apr 2009 05:35pm

Indeed animals have souls.
The 'Fluffy' story on the previous page explains it just a little.
f the Bible (or any other religious books) says they do not, then it merely shows the
limitations of the ancient writers of the Bible to understand, or grasp the unimaginable
greatness, love and compassion of what is known as God.

Lizzie
  • 28th Apr 2009 11:54am

I believe that animals have a soul, I have a dog and a horse and I have owned my horse for 20 years. When you have an animal for a long period of time and grow up together. You get to know their personality and their moods etc. I think all living creatures possess a soul. I know my horse Jess and dog Jack have big personalities and are kind a generous souls!!!

Thanks :-)

Hartmut
  • 19th Apr 2009 06:49pm

No doubt about it ,

Fluffy

Mary’s sweet little cat had suddenly died. Absent minded the sombre twelve-year-old girl straightened a few white flowers on the makeshift grave she and her mum had made. Tears welled up in her red rimed, sad eyes. AngelWing handed her a handkerchief. Mary looked up at her friend: “Is it true that animals have no souls and can’t go to heaven?”
AngelWing gave her a warm hug: “It is true there are many who say that they can not develop beyond certain...”
“Yes, but what do you believe?” Mary interrupted.
AngelWing smiled reassuringly: “I think, God being God will not put any limits on his own creations.”
“So then you believe that my Fluffy can go to ..., is in heaven?” Mary questioned, still uncertain.
“Yes Mary I do because the God-Energy is unlimited. If Fluffy wishes to become a human or even an Angel, can you imagine that an infinitely powerful God will say, ‘No, Fluffy you can not go to heaven but have to stay of being a cat forever?”
“No’, I can’t imagine that God would be so mean and petty. But how come that Fluffy can evolve further than being just a cat?”
“Because, Mary, nothing can exist outside of God. Animals are a part of God too and therefore the God seeds within them can grow into anything they wish.”
“But AngelWing Fluffy did not know anything about God.”
“That is true, animals are not aware of the source they came from. However, when did your own self-awareness arise? Did it suddenly spring into being as a fully developed human being, or did it first evolve through a series of lower, but growing levels of awareness in, say, plants or animals?”
“I don’t know” Mary answered. Then her mournful face lit up as she joked:
“If I had started out as a rose, my name would be Rosemary.”
AngelWing laughed: “Yes, why not? And if a rose is aware and can grow better by responding to a friendly voice or music, then, why should that awareness not be allowed to grow further than its present state?”
Mary shrugged her shoulder: “I’m not sure? What do you think?’
“I believe that an individual God spark is created as a separate Soul entity and that its long journey of self-discovery begins from a place it can cope with. From there it will slowly evolve into a higher and higher state of being, and finally God like awareness.”
Mary looked puzzled: “Are you assuming all that or are those proven facts?”
“Only God can know all the facts Mary, but I firmly accept that God grants every being absolute and unlimited growth.
Consider, why would God want to limit its own manifestations? How else can God experience itself - if not through his own creations, like Fluffy?
Mary felt now much better, “So, my Fluffy is not really dead, just gone somewhere else and perhaps I can meet her again in a different time and shape?”
“I don’t see why you should not, can you?” AngelWing asked
Mary shook her head with a big smile as they slowly walked away from the secluded spot where Fluffy rested.

(c) H.J.

Hartmut
  • 26th Jun 2009 04:42pm
YES they doo!!!! altohugh in the bible it says that pets don't go to heaven

Hi sammie,
The Bible is only one of many expressions of wisdom and spiritual knowledge.
Other sources say that pets do go to heaven since they are of the same God-Energy
as humans - and as everything else that exists is.

galah
  • 11th Jun 2009 12:51pm
Hi, I'd like to tell you a story.
I bred ridgebacks for twenty years.Over that time, I fostered 37 pups/dogs, three litters.Every one of them obviously had their own personality.But to mention...

This story had me in tears. But once, a long time ago I had a galah who died of complications whilst undergoing surgery. I was devastated and challenged my Minister to explain how this could happen. I said a heaven without animals was not my idea of heaven. I was angry at the time and he said, "If its important to you to see your animals again then they will be there when you die. Because you are important to God, your animals are important to God too." I always liked the sound of that and so hold on to it whenever I lose a beloved pet.

rodney2518
  • 2nd May 2009 01:44am
No doubt about it ,

Fluffy

Mary’s sweet little cat had suddenly died. Absent minded the sombre twelve-year-old girl straightened a few white flowers on the makeshift grave she...

Hi, I'd like to tell you a story.
I bred ridgebacks for twenty years.Over that time, I fostered 37 pups/dogs, three litters.Every one of them obviously had their own personality.But to mention one imparticular, was the mother of these litters.
She was my first dog.Infact, the first dog in our family, which father didn't take to kindly to being an extra responsability.In time, he changed, only for the dog that she was or became.
I thought for weeks on end, a name for her, it had to be special.Finally , I thought to call her "bliss", which means to enjoy.
I spent three hours a day training her, from the age of six weeks till she was two, and reeped the benefits of my time with the end result.
Through the years that followed, she went everywhere with me and in years to come, went everywhere with me and my wife.
She was like a human being.Anywhere I would sit, she would sit next to me and lean against me like we were buddies, just hanging out.I could turn to her and say "ya luv me", and she would drop her head and rest it on my knee and just look at me.
Unbelievable.
ThIs is one of many things that I could tell you about her,but I am only on a 12 gigabite plan.
Anyway, I had her for nine years.She died of complications.On that particular night, I noticed a green glaze to her eyes, like when you shine a torch on a rabbit out in the bush and it gives off the same look or reflection.I knew something was wrong because she came to me and looked up at me, and gave out a suttle whimper.
I took her inside, layed her in the loungeroom and after a while she couldn't move.I began the task of ringing around talking to vets that would bulk bill, since it was 9.30pm, I won't go into what idiot's and illcaring people I spoke to, but I knew it was a waste of time and that I was going to loose her.
My wife and I took turns laying next to her, trying to comfort her as best we could.Then around 1.00pm,my wife said "honey", and when I looked, bliss had stood up and was just looking straight at me, if not through me with those eye's.I said to her," your going to die aren't you girl".She then collasped ever so slowly, gave out three such painful groans and then she passed.
Why I tell you this, all we have is our beliefs and each to their own.I don't know if animals have a soul and for that matter, we as human beings are taught that we have.I'd like to think animals have a soul, but when it comes to belief, well yeah, I think animals have something like ourselves.
That's me. bye.

sammie
  • 29th Apr 2009 01:12pm
No doubt about it ,

Fluffy

Mary’s sweet little cat had suddenly died. Absent minded the sombre twelve-year-old girl straightened a few white flowers on the makeshift grave she...

YES they doo!!!! altohugh in the bible it says that pets don't go to heaven

gipsy
  • 17th Apr 2009 07:16am

My dog died 8 years ago, unfortunately having to be put to sleep by the vet. I "saw" her the next day sitting beside me looking like her former self, brushed and clean and my sister saw her the same night at her place. A couple of weeks later, she visited again but looked scruffy and the last time i saw her, she was in the back of my car, again looking clean. Have not seen her since, so maybe she's found her peace.

Hartmut
  • 10th Apr 2009 08:32pm

Hi there,
All souls are created equal.
However, souls may choose to experience and learn in very different environments, or at a varying speed.
So in that sense, no being has 'more soul' than another, only their learning capacity and awareness differs
according to their evolving level.

Anonymous
  • 31st Mar 2009 07:23pm

Animals have more of a soul then humans as everything they do is part of nature yet humans go against it and do massive atrocities against other humans for color of skin, religious beliefs etc .....

peterv
  • 14th Oct 2009 11:46am
No doubt about it ,

Fluffy

Mary’s sweet little cat had suddenly died. Absent minded the sombre twelve-year-old girl straightened a few white flowers on the makeshift grave she...

You are so right.

jumma
  • 29th Jul 2009 04:57pm
No doubt about it ,

Fluffy

Mary’s sweet little cat had suddenly died. Absent minded the sombre twelve-year-old girl straightened a few white flowers on the makeshift grave she...

animals don't have a voice as humans do but they make there own kind of noise like the magpies song and i do believe they have a soul and are part of God''s creation all for the greater soul of man.

Hartmut
  • 26th Jun 2009 04:26pm
peterv


SAY WHAT!???

Well, jgb, since you ask...
When humans are killing for pleasure, or for no reason - it is wrong.
Just as killing for fanatical religious reason is !

Hartmut
  • 26th Jun 2009 04:12pm
Hartmut,
Did you know, that Jesus Christ is the only religious leader who said He is God, mohamed , krishna, etc never did.
No other religion says that you can know God...

Hi jgb,
I doubt the the real Jesus ever said "I am God". Considering of what the unimaginable Greatness of the God-Energy might be, that would be a very arrogant statement to make. God is not a human who sits on a throne - but all that exists in this Universe and on any other higher levels.
Remember that the Bible has been changed and altered many times to suit those in political and religious power. So, no one can prove of what Jesus really said. I would say that Jesus was a great and very enlightened person, a way shower - to point to a more spiritual life. However, 'all roads lead to Rome' and Christianity is one of many roads that may lead one to the realization of who and what we really are.
To claim that one, and only one religious leader (or religion) is the only ONE truth, has led humankind to untold miseries and wars throughout centuries and is played out right now in the Middle East and elsewhere with terror acts - and all in the name of God.
To insist, and worse enforce with violence, that there is only one religion or only one leader that can "Safe You", is not only false, but a sign intolerance and limited thinking.
We are all on different levels of understanding and as such the the various religions all serve a good purpose and should be respected. For example it is not a sign of respect when you write the name of Jesus Christ in Capital Letters but not the one of Mohamed or of Krishna.
Also, I never said that "God is a blade of grass, which would be silly". What I said, in context with my sentence, was, 'A blade of grass is a manifestation of God, like everything else that exists' .


Al
  • 18th Jun 2009 12:44pm
no we are equal with the animals as we both have souls as god created everythig but we humans must respect each other and stop killing each other and stop racism and stop being evil and god wants...

I also agree with you Jen.
We have a body, ( flesh), A soul, (Personality, intelect, thinking ability), and a spirit which is given by God and returns to God when we die. Ecclesiastes: 12:7

jgb
  • 16th Jun 2009 01:33pm
I agrre with you.Animals by and large are not vindictive,bear few grudges and forgive.If they kill it's usually to survive or defend themselves.Humans kill for "pleasure'' or for no reason.

peterv


SAY WHAT!???

jgb
  • 16th Jun 2009 01:32pm
Hi there,

No one religion or belief has the total 100% Truth of what God is.
Everybody should be respected. Everyone's belief should be respected. Everyone's Truth (as they see it)...

Hartmut,
Did you know, that Jesus Christ is the only religious leader who said He is God, mohamed , krishna, etc never did.
No other religion says that you can know God personally
.
There can only be ONE truth, for example, either gravity exists or it doesn't, you cannot have both.
Similarly, either Jesus Christ is the way, the truth and the life and nobody can come to the Father except through Him OR he's not.
and you can get there by any path, even the one Hitler chose, because according to your thinking, everybody's (hitlers) beliefs should be respected and his 'truth' has value.

In the second paragraph, you say 'God' is a blade of grass?! I am glad I don't worship your god, because I cut him last week, sorry.!

Oh dear, you cannot mix salt water with fresh! You cannot take new age thought or eastern religion and mix it with the Bible.
They will not mix, you just end up with contradictions and thinking people will see right through it.
I do not wish to put you down, that is not the intent of this post.

greece
  • 4th May 2009 08:41pm
To me animals have more soul than humans, some understand us when we are sick. But pack animals differ I think

no we are equal with the animals as we both have souls as god created everythig but we humans must respect each other and stop killing each other and stop racism and stop being evil and god wants us to be good we are human not animals we are not even apes we came from adam and eve as god wanted us to be

peterv
  • 23rd Apr 2009 06:09pm
To me animals have more soul than humans, some understand us when we are sick. But pack animals differ I think

I agrre with you.Animals by and large are not vindictive,bear few grudges and forgive.If they kill it's usually to survive or defend themselves.Humans kill for "pleasure'' or for no reason.

bj
  • 2nd Apr 2009 08:50am
Hi there,

No one religion or belief has the total 100% Truth of what God is.
Everybody should be respected. Everyone's belief should be respected. Everyone's Truth (as they see it)...

To me animals have more soul than humans, some understand us when we are sick. But pack animals differ I think

Hartmut
  • 31st Mar 2009 11:13pm
Hi there,

No one religion or belief has the total 100% Truth of what God is.
Everybody should be respected. Everyone's belief should be respected. Everyone's Truth (as they see it)...

Hi there,

No one religion or belief has the total 100% Truth of what God is.
Everybody should be respected. Everyone's belief should be respected. Everyone's Truth (as they see it) has value and should be respected, be they from Spiritualists, Christians, Buddhists, Muslims etc..
Belittling, disparaging remarks like: "Spiritualistic 'mumbo jumbo' is no proof that disembodied souls are lurking about",
is not the way to further an open and free discussion, but merely display a restricted point of view.

In my opinion (and that is all it is!), everything that exists is a manifestation of God , be that a blade of grass, an animal or a human being, and as such - a part of God. It stands to reason that a newly God created Soul starts at a lower life form and gradually evolves to higher levels to learn and gain experiences, say from an animal to an angel, and then reside ...'in my father's house are many mansions'.
And, (unless they wish not to be) Souls, being made from the essence of God, are eternal.


Captured
  • 31st Mar 2009 02:40pm

Personally- i believe that We (humans) are animals- we are mammals. We bare live young and suckle them until it is time to wean them. We take care of our young until they are old enough to fend for themselves.
Therefore, i do believe that ALL animals have a soul- they all have and feel emotions just like us humans do. The only difference is that unlike us- they cannot speak and express themselves like we do.

Jenni
  • 24th Jan 2012 10:09pm
Personally- i believe that We (humans) are animals- we are mammals. We bare live young and suckle them until it is time to wean them. We take care of our young until they are old enough to fend for...

Couldn't have said it better myself. No they can't speak, however, I believe they can express themselves just as well as us, the only difference is that many of our domestic animals are smart enough to read our language, unfortunately we are to stupid to read theirs

Hartmut
  • 15th Jul 2010 02:57pm
You took the words right out of my mouth. I am pagan and believe that we ALL have a soul. You can read all the bibles and history books you want but you have to take into consideration. Who wrote...

Hi Mitchuacon, Well, the question is 'Do Animals Have a Soul? I understand that it is hard for most to separate Soul from religion.
And since I believe that all living things are a part of whatever you may prefer to call God, it follows that ALL living things have a Soul, a spark, or part of the Divine in them.
In that sense, everything that exists is a manifestation of God.
It is unfortunate that certain man made religions separate us, and animals, from The Ultimate Creative Force when in my opinion we are all connected as in: ONE is ALL and ALL is ONE.
So let's call our Soul debate not a religious, but a spiritual one.

Mitchuacon
  • 27th Mar 2010 01:35pm
Personally- i believe that We (humans) are animals- we are mammals. We bare live young and suckle them until it is time to wean them. We take care of our young until they are old enough to fend for...

You took the words right out of my mouth. I am pagan and believe that we ALL have a soul. You can read all the bibles and history books you want but you have to take into consideration. Who wrote these books and when. And who edited out the stuff they did not want us to know about.

I thought this was supposed to be about animals. NOT a religious debate.

peterv
  • 27th Jul 2009 03:55pm
Personally- i believe that We (humans) are animals- we are mammals. We bare live young and suckle them until it is time to wean them. We take care of our young until they are old enough to fend for...

well said.100% correct

Jen
  • 28th Mar 2009 10:28pm

This is an interesting question. Leaving emotion out of the issue and simply answering from the Bible, it is clear that animals ARE souls, they don't HAVE one. Humans and animals as well as fish and birds are all called "living souls" in the Bible. Humans are the only ones promised eternal life however. The book of Ecclesiastes 3:19, 20, says that humans have no advantage over the animals in death, both stop breathing and die. When we look at the Genesis account of creation, it is plain that Adam BECAME a soul with the "breath of life"...he was not GIVEN one. That poor old soul that I saw the other day was the person, not some shadowy thing inhabiting her. "Old King Cole was a merry old soul"...same thing. Nowhere in the Bible does it say we have an immortal soul. That is a false assumption. According to the Bible, the soul dies.....(Ezekiel 18:4) the soul is you, with everything that makes you who you are as a unique individual. It doesn't go anywhere when you die. You return to the dust just like Adam did. (Genesis 3:19) I know this will make a lot of people unhappy, but it's the truth. Spiritistic 'mumbo jumbo' is no proof that disembodied souls are lurking about , either man or animals. The spirit realm is not inhabited by dead humans.

mymonkey
  • 21st Jun 2016 07:26pm
This is an interesting question. Leaving emotion out of the issue and simply answering from the Bible, it is clear that animals ARE souls, they don't HAVE one. Humans and animals as well as fish...

Yes, you are absolutely right, when we die, we become dust, the breath and the body is a living soul...In the bible it says 8 souls were saved in the Ark, Noah and his family were living people....Genesis 2;7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. We do not posses immortality, that's why in Romans 2:7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: ...Why search for immortality, if we have it already....Only God has immortality... This is included in animals as well...When an animal dies, it turns to dust, end of story....Im very sorry for those who believe their pets are in heaven (no such thing) ....Animals that were on earth will not be resurrected, Christ died for mankind, not for animals

Chicken
  • 23rd Sep 2011 09:39am
which Bible have you been reading????
Titus 1:2 ... in hope of eternal life which God, who cannot lie, promised before time began,
Luke 18:18 Now a certain ruler asked Him, saying,...

Now you are talking. As a Christian, I have never found a statement anywhere that specifies either way, without possibly reading it out of context. I have thought about it a lot from a logical point of view and tend to think that they do, I hope so. Firstly, and nobody has brought this up in the discussion yet, to have eternal life, even though we have a soul, we have to accept Jesus as our LORD. We are told that in the bible and that it was Jesus Himself who said so. So now is the start of my logic. If that is so, then what about all the thousands of billions of people who have never heard about Jesus, even now, back til His days or even Adam and Eve. Shouldn't they all be given the opportunity to maake a decision? Ok so those people never heard about Jesus while here on earth but presumably will somehow in the spirit world. The same with animals, they do not get to meet to 'our Jesus' who are we to say that there is not some sort of 'animal heaven' for them, even if it is not the same as ours. That is what I believe anyway!

Chicken
  • 23rd Sep 2011 09:09am
which Bible have you been reading????
Titus 1:2 ... in hope of eternal life which God, who cannot lie, promised before time began,
Luke 18:18 Now a certain ruler asked Him, saying,...

Now you are talking! I really don't know about animals as a Christian but tend to think so myself. At least from a biblical point of view nobody has said in this diiscussion that we do not all have eternal life, simply having a soul does not give us that. We have to accept Jesus as our LORD before we can go to heaven. Now this is my logic about animals having a soul and therefore eternal life. If humans can only get eternal life by accepting Jesus as their LORD, what about all the humans that have never heard about Him, either nowdays or before he even came to earth, surely they will be given some sort of opportunity to 'meet' Him to make their decision, they deserve the same right to make a choice as we do. So,of course, animals don't get introduced to 'our Jesus' but who is it to say that there is not some sort of 'animal heaven'? I tend to think there is!

phoenix
  • 12th Dec 2010 04:50pm
which Bible have you been reading????
Titus 1:2 ... in hope of eternal life which God, who cannot lie, promised before time began,
Luke 18:18 Now a certain ruler asked Him, saying,...

yeah of course pets have souls.

Hartmut
  • 8th Nov 2010 05:20pm
WITH ALL DO RESPECT WAT U HAVE WRITTEN HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANIMALS AN THEY DO HAVE SOULS I THINK U MAYBE DISREGARDED ALLLIVING CREATURES HAVE SOULS

Hi there rachel44444
I do agree that all living creature have a soul, because they, like everything else, is a part and manifestation of what is known as God.
However, on this (cafe' ) pages please let us not sink to the level of some of the negative YOU-TUBE comments by DISREGARDING anyone who merely gives voice to their right or wrong opinion.

woodie
  • 21st Jul 2010 03:08pm
Im with you Jen 100%.
sounds like you know your stuff.

I find that animals are so sensitive when it comes to our needs. They know when we are down. I'm a Christian and I do believe they are souls. We had an old dog who died when she was 17 and a year later both my husband and I sensed her in our bedroom at the same time. It was the exact time she died a year earlier. We even had one dog who considered himself my protector and was scared to die until I told him that he had done his job and I would be okay.

Hartmut
  • 15th Jul 2010 02:28pm
WITH ALL DO RESPECT WAT U HAVE WRITTEN HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANIMALS AN THEY DO HAVE SOULS I THINK U MAYBE DISREGARDED ALLLIVING CREATURES HAVE SOULS

Please Rachel, although I agree with the point that all animals and possibly even plants have a soul (or start out as a group-soul), do not disregard someone else who has a different opinion.
Remember, at our physical level no-one has the total truth.

rachel44444
  • 9th Jul 2010 12:20pm
which Bible have you been reading????
Titus 1:2 ... in hope of eternal life which God, who cannot lie, promised before time began,
Luke 18:18 Now a certain ruler asked Him, saying,...

WITH ALL DO RESPECT WAT U HAVE WRITTEN HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANIMALS AN THEY DO HAVE SOULS I THINK U MAYBE DISREGARDED ALLLIVING CREATURES HAVE SOULS

pictonian
  • 29th Jun 2009 06:30pm
This is an interesting question. Leaving emotion out of the issue and simply answering from the Bible, it is clear that animals ARE souls, they don't HAVE one. Humans and animals as well as fish...

I totally agree well written.

Hartmut
  • 26th Jun 2009 04:34pm
which Bible have you been reading????
Titus 1:2 ... in hope of eternal life which God, who cannot lie, promised before time began,
Luke 18:18 Now a certain ruler asked Him, saying,...

jgb
It's funny, when people say, 'with all due respect' what they really mean is exactly the opposite...
as in your '...your post can be safely disregarded' .
In these pages no one should be 'disregarded' - but respected and their points and opinions
answered or discussed - in a friendly and respectful manner.

jgb
  • 16th Jun 2009 01:06pm
This is an interesting question. Leaving emotion out of the issue and simply answering from the Bible, it is clear that animals ARE souls, they don't HAVE one. Humans and animals as well as fish...

which Bible have you been reading????
Titus 1:2 ... in hope of eternal life which God, who cannot lie, promised before time began,
Luke 18:18 Now a certain ruler asked Him, saying, “Good Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?”
Jen, with all due respect, I think your post can be safely disregarded.

Felix Fan
  • 4th May 2009 01:57pm
This is an interesting question. Leaving emotion out of the issue and simply answering from the Bible, it is clear that animals ARE souls, they don't HAVE one. Humans and animals as well as fish...

Im with you Jen 100%.
sounds like you know your stuff.

Anonymous
  • 2nd May 2009 07:54pm
This is an interesting question. Leaving emotion out of the issue and simply answering from the Bible, it is clear that animals ARE souls, they don't HAVE one. Humans and animals as well as fish...

Ecclesiastes 3:21 "Who knows the spirit of the sons of men, which goes upward, and the spirit of the animal, which goes down to the earth?" Always read on and never take just a few verses to support your own opinion, the Bible has a message for us and is not there to support our own limited idea of life.

Yellow-sun
  • 25th Mar 2009 11:05am

I feel that animals have souls. They feel pain as humans do, they feel happiness and a range of other emotions.
And I suppose the biggest reason for me believing that animals have souls is that there are times that I have heard others talk about sensing their lost pet who has past away surrounding them like a spirit, just as humans do. Just because you can not see it does not mean that it does not exist.

KittiCat
  • 23rd Nov 2016 03:07pm
I feel that animals have souls. They feel pain as humans do, they feel happiness and a range of other emotions.
And I suppose the biggest reason for me believing that animals have souls is...

Totally agree

mimm
  • 29th Aug 2012 10:15pm
yes i agree to ,i think they have souls ,they feel pain ,and abuse the same as us ,

totally agree with your coment nelly2

TURBO07
  • 17th Feb 2012 09:32pm
I feel that animals have souls. They feel pain as humans do, they feel happiness and a range of other emotions.
And I suppose the biggest reason for me believing that animals have souls is...

I DON'T JUST FEEL DOGS HAVE SOULS I ALSO THINK THEY ARE INDIVIDUALS ANYWAY MY FOXY AND SHIATSU X MALTESE ARE ANYWAY I THINK SO

Jenni
  • 24th Jan 2012 09:59pm
I feel that animals have souls. They feel pain as humans do, they feel happiness and a range of other emotions.
And I suppose the biggest reason for me believing that animals have souls is...

My pets have been with me after they have passed, I have felt their presence when faced with difficult situations. When my childhood cat passed, I was in Queensland and she was in Tassie. That night I woke abruptly and saw her on the end of my bed. I closed and reopened my eyes but there she still was. I received a call the next day to say that she had passed the previous night.

I have had many animals companions during my life and they have all had beautiful souls. The idea that humans are the only ones who possess a soul is to say the least Descartes'n.

pippin
  • 21st Aug 2011 03:59pm
I feel that animals have souls. They feel pain as humans do, they feel happiness and a range of other emotions.
And I suppose the biggest reason for me believing that animals have souls is...

That is so true, one of my cats passed away over 8 years ago. Her name was RUSTIE , same colour, I can still feel her spirit around me.

nelly2
  • 8th May 2011 07:36am
I agree with you completely.You've put it in a nutshell.

yes i agree to ,i think they have souls ,they feel pain ,and abuse the same as us ,

libbie
  • 18th Mar 2010 10:14pm
I feel that animals have souls. They feel pain as humans do, they feel happiness and a range of other emotions.
And I suppose the biggest reason for me believing that animals have souls is...

yes i agree with you. when my dog Stanley died my older cat got up on my chest (very unusual for her to do this) and we felt Stanley in the room with us. the next day the vet called and i told him Stanley had gone at 10.30pm the night before and he said yes that was right. He had been poisoned.

peterv
  • 18th Dec 2009 01:57pm
I feel that animals have souls. They feel pain as humans do, they feel happiness and a range of other emotions.
And I suppose the biggest reason for me believing that animals have souls is...

I agree with you completely.You've put it in a nutshell.

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