new council laws on barking dogs
Posted by: nelly2
16th Mar 2011 10:26am
do you agree with the law they are bringing in where they can take your dog and put it down for barking all the time ,they can do this without your permision ,i would like to hear your thoughts on this.
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TheFatMan
The trouble is that dogs often bark when an owner/owners are away, and not at home. However this problem can be fixed easily. As it is natural for a dog to bark, they can be a problem to your neighbours who are not dog lovers. To remedy this problem there are dog collars that can be used for barking dogs. The best one that I have found that works exceptionally well is the one that gives the dog an electric shock when they bark. These collars give the dog two audible warnings before the shock. After the first day of use the dog has learned what happens when they bark, and after that wearing the collar for about two weeks of hearing the audible warning, you can actually place a small block of wood on the collar, and the dog believes that they have the real thing. All I do is if my dog wants to make a noise, usually when strangers come, I just say to her, "Do you want to wear your jewelry", (my name for the device) then place it on her, and no more noise. Some people think that this is cruel to the dog, but I would rather do this, which is not an ongoing shock treatment, as the dog has learned not to bark, and it is far better than having your lovely companion put down.
mumbles
ahahah this cannot be implemented .... they couldn't keep up with it all
punkcess
This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. It is an animal that means no malice. Surely we should be looking at the people in and around its life.
Kessa1959
I didn't know about this new law but the council where I live work with the dog owner to solve the problem. We have a dog which was surrendered to the rescue group I belong to which we ended up adopting because it was difficult to rehome him.
The previous owners tried everything and spent a lot of money on solutions - none to any avail.
We manage him where we live as I have it worked out why he barks and try to eliminate the stimulus however my concerns are that after 17 years living on 5 acres we will be moving to a smaller block.
I have been in touch with the council and explained the problem and that we are willing to work with neighbours and themselves.
I think it is dreadful if in fact a coucil officer can come and take your dog without knowing the facts. Anyone could complain for any reason when the dog may not be a problem.
Usually debarking is illegal however in our case we have permission to do that if his barking does become a problem when we move. The choice we have is either this or having him destroyed which I just can't do. Debarking is done under a general through a vet and isn't as horrible as it sounds. The dogs still have a voice but it is more hoarse and quieter.
Anonymous
I think that is SOOO wrong, but at the same time... what else might we suggest that they do? But I would be HEARTBROKEN if someone just came and took my dog and put it down... Will they give you lots of warning?? I imagine that the putting down thing might be a last resort.
Sam
Dogs bark, it's what they do. It's their way of protecting their environment and their humans. This is why we get dogs, for protection. So why punish a dog for its natural instinct to protect??
Anonymous
I strongly disagree with this law! Putting a dog down for barking is bad enough but the fact they could do this without your permission is just horrifying. We should have a say, if it is our pet!! It is a far to harsh punishment just because your dog is barking. It is as bad as the death sentence just for stealing a loaf of bread, it is crazy!!!! we should fight for our four-legged friends
Suzieque
That's terrible who are they god almighty?. They don't get voted in to please them selves with their own laws. If that is all they are interested in (taking your dog because they don't like the dogs barking) and being paid a good wage for their idea's then I believe that the council staff roles should be reversed so that we can put them away for days and days and they see nobody at all when we can't get the right answers to our queries (one ends up finding out why they have no answers ) the reason is that our queries have been put in the too hard basket . The council should be made to find out the reasons for why the dogs are barking in the first place. Suzieque
mausy
No I do not agree, the council insists we pay dog reg every year, we pay it, we have reg yearly , vet bills and vaccinations we pay for them, we love our dog very much, sometimes she barks, big deal, thats what dogs do, what can we do,she is a very loyal family member who contributes to the safety of us and our home ! The thought that someone can enter our property and remove our dog because she is barking is very disturbing!
Anonymous
no i didnt no way they cant do this
Anonymous
They should just stick to fines and warnings. Taking your dog and putting it down is inhumane and should not be aloud at all.
Anonymous
They should just stick to fines and warnings. Taking your dog and putting it down is inhumane and should not be aloud at all.
Anonymous
They should just stick to fines and warnings. Taking your dog and putting it down is inhumane and should not be aloud at all.
Anonymous
I think it's disgusting!! They can't do that to a innocent animal that hasn't hurt anyone!! I have a little Pomeranian who barks at the slightest movement. Iv taken control of it by getting him a barking coler. The coler isnt a shock coler. which just simply sprays out a citric spray that dog hate. so it doesn't hurt him at all. It doesn't always work for all dog my sister used it on her border collie and didn't stop him from barking.
Hartmut
No, they should put the dog owner down!
Seriously though, putting any animal down for making 'noise' is
barbaric and cruel and certainly not necessary.
They should heavily fine the dog-owner if he/she does not 'fix' the problem, which is most likely caused by the dog being unhappy about his environment or about the treatment it gets.
simla
i relate to the problem,dogs barking without cause is a no no, but council Police State rules are not on either. we are living in a time of increasing restriction of liberty in many areas of public policy, including Council Law enforcement, and Animal Welfare, where in both areas the rights of the citizen are being/ have been eroded. This leaves it up to the honor and expertise of the officers to be trusted to have the necessary skills and knowledge to be the judge of whether to take a particular action. Sadly the recruiting officers concerned that are responsible for the hiring if said officers, dont understand that a qualification is needed in the areas of animal husbandry and philosophy[where they would learn about ethical practices and common sense logic] Instead, their job adverts state that preference be given to x police officers! Spca so called Royal, are only interested in educating the public through TERROR TACTICS where they get maximum exposure. They are not the caring people they once were seen to be, . not a charity but a business,and will be the last people I`d be counting on for support or help to fight the councils Law or Impending Laws. My advice is to use a greyhound type headstall muzzle,it allows panting/drinking,no barking!
lozza
when did this law come in I haven't heard this. Our yard backs onto a walkway and the school children torment our dog and start him going we also back onto to a busy street and sometimes the police setup their mobile rbt's which start him going how can we be blamed for our dog barking he does it for a reason to protect his yard and humans.
Anonymous
my dog is a good dog and only barks when necacarry so i personally would not be affected by this rule..
however i think my neighbour behind would be upset by it you should train your dog properly not know when and when not to bark
zoot
I have a dog next door that barks every time I go outside my back door. It can bark nonstop for 30 mins at a time. The owner says it is " doing its job " , barking when it hears something!!! So they do nothing about it. The last contact with them was a verbal harangue. So my rights to a peaceful environment are totally negated by selfish inconsiderate dog owners. While I dont believe a dog should be removed and put down --there should be stronger penalties placed on such inconsiderate dog owners. Its not the fault of the dog --its the owners.
ralphy
yes good riddance
goanna
That law has been in for nearly 10 years here in Sydney, NSW. Some neighbour complained to Bankstown Council about my mother's dog barking around 6am every morning and she was given two warnings to keep it quiet or she would face court, be fined with the animal being put down. He was too big to be kept in the house and unfortunately my mother had to put him down which broke her heart and a few years later she died. The dog was company for her after her husband died and she was alone in the house with no pet for protection and company. Rather sad!!! It wasn't as if her dog was barking 24/7.
Berna
I must admit, I definitely do not agree with a law where your dog can be taken for barking. Those barking dogs are obviously in need of exercise and or attention, or they would not be barking. How about people who own dogs ensure they get enough of both?
ratsenburger
Insane the people with the barking dog should be fined and taught how to look after the dog properly so it has something better to do rather than bark all day! and the idiot who thought lets just put the animal down should be put down themselves! I have more time and think a lot more highly of my to well behaved dogs than i do of most people today as 90% of the idiots are just out for themselves and nothing more whereas my dogs are loving loyal and dont answer back or cause bullshit over nothing! Animals deserve our respect love and kindness not idiots who have no time for them so they end up dead or worse!
Yoshi
ARgh They can do that? Thats obsered, can i put you down because you talk to much, or a baby because they feel the need to be loud and annoying, obviously the dog/dogs that behave in a constant barking manner have been i'll treated or teased into thinking that this is there general job, they have become bored with other leisure activities and resort to this only sign for attention or warding off passers by and any other threat the see fit.
dogs are like young children, you must teach them and teach them right or ovcourse they will become disaccepted in there culture/surruondings,
easy dont get a dog if your are unfit to train and treat it right!!!
BernardMP
Thats absolute nonsense.
annie
I havent heard about this new council law on barking dogs but think it is very rude and cruel thing to do.We have an 11year old boxer dog that barks at the back door when we are ignoring her or she wants to come inside or wants her tea.It is her means of communicating to us and when she starts barking we yell at her to be quiet or just let her inside
Shortstuff
My dogs are kelpies, and they bark when like at this moment it is raining, and my goats stampede home. They also warn me when preditory birds are around. They would have to shoot me first, thankfully i live in the bush.
littletoot
I've never heard of this before. Usually there are negotiating steps taken between the dog owner and complainant first. Constant and uninterupted barking can be annoying and there are many ways to reduce this, but you have to know that there is a problem first! How can you deal with a problem you didn't know you had. My little dog is now 19 years old and thankfully barking has not been an issue. I would be devastated if my dog was put down under such circumstances. There has to be some opportunity for investigation including the owner, afterall the complainant may have a personally grudge. How do they establish "constant barking"? how many complaints do they need! I'd be down to the Council quick smart if I even heard a whisper that such a law was being considered.
Anonymous
Certainly not! That's abuse. If a dog is barking non stop there is a reason it is, What are the living conditions for the poor dog.
Timbo
Great idea. If you buy a dog or any other pet you need to be prepared to take responsibility for its behaviour. There are plenty of places that will assist you in training your dog not to bark continually. The trouble seems to be that far too many people buy pets without wanting to make the commitment to spending time and money on their care. The same should apply to people who leave their un-desexed cats out at night to howl and fight under my bedroom window at 3 AM. If you can't make a commitment to caring for your pet buy a pet rock.
Anonymous
Sick.
Would you put a baby down for crying all the time.
CaitlinMaree
I think we are all overlooking the fact that barking is a dogs way of communicating with other dogs. Putting a dog down for barking all the time is like putting us down for talking alot. I understand that a dog that constantly barks can be irritating, but often it is the owners who do not take the time to teach the dogs that this is wrong.
It can also be environmental influences that will cause a dog to bark. A dog that lives near a railway line, for example, may be frightened or react negatively to a train, and barking is their way of feeling like they are defending themselves, or a way of getting their owner to take them out of the stressful situation. If you use this logic, then you a killing a dog for being scared!
The reasons a dog barks are multifactoral and varied, and the power to euthanise a noisy animal, simply for voicing themselves is completely absurd. We live in a free country, where freedom of speech is celebrated. Surely it is the basic right of every being-whether animal or human!
Anonymous
Don't know where this law is supposed to be enforced but it stinks. Dogs are naturally protective creatures and will bark to protect theirs owners and their turf. There are ways to control problem barkers, any Vet will give information on the methods but the real problem here is the owners who should look into ways of preventing their dogs from barking unnecessarily .
Anonymous
I thinks its disgusting :( how dare they come and kill one of your family members for barking. I don't see or hear about anyone been shot down in the street for making a noise or hooning around.
jjdrer
I know a guy from work whose son has a dog which barks on the odd occasion. Then they discovered that the boy next door is banging on the fence, so naturally the dog barks. They then complained to the Council, and told the owners they had to have eith photographic or audio recording as proof of the reason why the dog was barking. Around here, if one barks more join in. You can hire or buy special collars which release citronella which doesn't hurt the dog. I agree that some people are very bad owners and should never have pets let alone a dog which needs regular exercise, feeding, vet checks and grooming. Most dogs will "guard" their property and protect the residents of that house, alert their owners of "tresspassers" or people they know arriving. Some dogs have very little ineraction with their owners and are simply bored.
simla
yes Blossom, some kids on their way home from school will do this.
When I was about 6 or 7 I remember banging on the fence of a lovely black dog's fence so it would come over and I could pat it.
It's a wonder it didn't bite me. But I loved dogs and was not allowed to have one. So this was why I did it. Finally the owner saw what was happening, explained that it was teaching the dog bad habits, and asked me not to. they saw that i loved dogs, so were nice about it.
Big dogs and little ones with long noses can have a headstall type muzzle? ( I wouldn't call it a real
muzzle) These allow a small mouth opening, not enough to bark, but they can still howl, which can be as bad. They help you train the dog, as you can pop it on for an hour every time the dog dosn't get the message.They need consistent training.
Bec
My dogs are my babies they are the adopted children that my birth kids cannot live without, anyone took them from us and hell would break out!!!
Maz
I don't know the details of the proposed law but I'm sure it would be in regards to dogs who bark all the time not guard dogs giving a warning bark. I certainly do not support removing a dog without owner permission and euthanasing it. That's simply callous. What I do support is ensuring that dogs and owners get the support they need to address and resolve the problem.
Wen
Which state is this. Typical councils. Is it easier to pick on dogs than tackle the real problems.
jjdrer
It depends why the dog is barking. We discovered that our gates were being shaken and the fence banged on until our dog barked. Sometimes they did it for a couple of minutes until she did bark - after she had woken up from a heavy sleep. She was snoring only moments before. Trouble is, you need photographic proof !!!!
We got brave and approached the parents of one child who continually did so, even after we very quietly and politely asked the child to stop do it.
Missmum
What the! Where is this happening? I have a Jack Russell who loves too let the entire neighbourhood that his wants attention. Although their is a lot of other dogs in the neighbourhood that carry on a lot worse than Buster.
Anonymous
No I definitely do not agree with this law. No body can control their dog from barking
Anonymous
I think this law is terrible, I have a fox terrier and she goes every where with me,she barks at anyone she doesnt know and is a really good watch dog.She is always with me so the council would have a hard time taking her without ny permission.They wouldnt be able to get near her without her going nuts.She is almost 5years.I did have a dog next door that barked all day and half the night and it is annoying so thankfully they have now moved.
pammy
no i don't agree. You should be told of the reports and then given a chance to rec - defy it and if it still goes on then maybe de bark it which i don't really like but it better than being put down.
stretch
no way cruelty to animals
but there are a few of the council workers that are not carrying the apointed identification
if you catch them on camera drop them of to your layers and watch them bark
toot
I do not know which state you may be referring to . I live in Perth and in the suburb I am in if a person complains about my dogs barking they have the option of talking to me about it or going straight to the council.
It used to be that there had to be three different people complain then they changed it to one.
I know our council does take into account the time of day the dogs are barking , particularly in our street as there is a primary school down the end , so of course in the morning and afternoon there are kids, cars etc up and down like a racetrack.
If I am home and my dogs bark , I check up on what is causing it and then tell them to be quiet, as a person on their own they are my security alarm as well as being loving companions(more like kids to me than dogs and quite frankly I prefer them as against kids)
I have no faith in the RSPCA , it took me about four phone calls and being on the verge of contacting a tv station in relation to a dog being kept in a cage in the front yard of a house I walk past to get to the shop, I think the RSPCA only take action when there is a tv camera around.
I would rather hear a dog bark than the noisy parties that go on, having said that though if a dog is barking constantly then the owner needs to be let know so they can check and see if the dog is ok or is sick or to see if they can establish if it is being teased by somebody and certainly if it is being neglected then the council needs to be informed.
I know in my council area the rangers have more authority to go onto your property than the police do however you will find they try and sort the problem out first unless the dog has attacked someone and then that might be a different matter.
Anonymous
WHAAT THE FUCK
devylkitten
I would be mortified if this law is passed! I wonder what the RSPCA thinks about such a law? Surely, the first step if this really is an issue should be for the council to contact the dog owner and request steps(such as formal training/techniques to change the animals behaviour)! I might ring my vet about this one! Ironic really, when the council would like to address the issue of barking dogs but seems to care very little about the rising crime rate in many areas. Obviously, 'priorities' are not council strong points! Someone broke into my property and the council did fine me when the criminals left my gate open and my puppy got out. I was thankful that someone had the kindness to let them know that my puppy was out and in danger near the road - the council did collect him but apparently I was the criminal for him being out. The fine meant nothing as I was so grateful for the animals safety - but the council didn't have much empathy for the break in(which has been an ongoing problem in my area).
kayteejay46
Hey I love dogs, but do hate it when people leave them chained up and they bark incessantly and you are home trying to study. Around me there are heaps of dogs, and they set off a chain reaction of barking, sometimes SO loud that I have to sleep with ear plugs and cant even talk on the phone and hear the other person, so yeah, have a dog but do the right thing and look after it and exercise it, train it and most of all spend time with it so they dont bark for no reason.
normarand
It can be really annoying to live next door to a barking dog if the barking goes on non stop day and night and in this case then something needs to be done. I think that putting the dog down is a bit over the top. Surely the owner should be asked to correct the dog's behaviour first and then if that doesn't work then perhaps the dog could be removed for training, or some other measure used to stop the barking.
Anonymous
Thank you for some sanity in this way over emotional reaction to a law that doesn't exist! I live in a house where both neighbours have maltese cross dogs that are left alone most of the time. They both howl, whine, bark and carry on at all hours of the day. And you know what, it's not the dog that is at fault (they're just trying to communicate their frustration / sadness) it is the owner! Don't get a dog that needs attention if you aren't there! A dog is for life not for Christmas!
tiff2000
Wow, how very barbaric. The owners should be told there's a problem, they might not be aware and perhaps given strategies on how the animals can occupy themselves while their owners are away. It is done through boredom, hunger, protecting their home and sometimes fear. Every time I go out my back door the little dog there barks at me, I've heard her owner wack her, yell at her and chase her. This little dog is about the size of a chiwawa.
I would check with the council myself if I was you. It just doesn't sound right. I have lived next to a large dog that barked all the time and it really is annoying, especially if you do shift work.
sandy
no all possible assistance should be given to the dog & owner to stop the problem. Their is usually a reason
ceanna jane
I am with you there sandy.instead of putting and animal to rest they should be focusing on what is causing the dog to act in this way.most dogs bark and cry when they miss there parents and the main reason dogs bark is because they feel threatened or they are protecting those from danger. The only reason an animal should be put down is if it is in so much pain or crippled.animals are pets and they are apart of families.sometimes dogs are all the family some people have and no one should have the power to touch that animal other than that of the owner.
Ingi
The day it arrives all hell will break loose, nobody and I mean nobody has the right to take away a dog that is in your own backyard and make it stop barking, it's natural for a dog to bark, our two Rottweillers only bark when they see strange dogs and people walk outside our gate, we tell them to shush and they do, I don't believe in excessive barking, only a warning to tell us that there are other dogs or people outside our property and they are letting us know, our dogs are ALWAYS behind our fence, don't know what other dogs on their own are doing probably having fun running around, there are laws to be upbeld but not ridiculous, stupid ones that only SOME councillors make up.
chickenman
maybe there should also be a law whereby the council can put down people who are noisy at backyard parties
Sammbo
Rubbish! Don't believe everything you read.
When a Council gets a complaint about a barking dog, there are many steps they must go through, to corroborate the complaint.
Then there are many more stages e.g. mediation, vet advice etc....that still have to be followed.
Nothing as draconian as what you suggest will every come about!
Jade Simpson
That doesn't sound very good that they take them and put them down. I had 2 dogs that renters next door owned that barked over 1000 times a day (it was constant). The poor dogs never got walked or played with, they were actually nice dogs, just bad owners (very neglectful). They just wanted them for security. Thank god they finally moved after a year of it.
nelly2
i read it in one of the papers not sure which one now ,it just gob smacked me at the time ,i havnt heard any thing since,but im still concerned about it ,if i hear any thing about it i will post it .
HollyDuder
Where did you hear this I am curious if this is just a rumor or if it is fact. Because we have a new neighbor who has moved in next door and openly says he hates animals. Our dog is a well trained police dog who NEVER Barks. She is well behaved. And someone is home with it all day long. This neighbor always complains the dog barks. We've recorded the dog all day to prove it never barks and just because this man hates animals he wants our dog gone. We have lived here with the same neighbors for over ten years and our other neighbors love our dog cause its so quiet. And this guy moved in and within a week he wants the dog gone. So if this law goes through he can complain to the council make up some lie and they will come and take our dog who has done nothing wrong away. bull shit
simla
Hi Holly Dudler, i hope that by now your neighbour has moved, or that you have, Or the issue is resolved. I had a similar problem, a nasty pet hater neighbour made my life hell for many years for no reason. just did not think anybody should keep animals at all, any kind of pet... He said pets caused families a lot of grief and arguments.
Obviously he had had a bad family experience as a child. He needed to see a councillor.
We should have sold up and moved... looking back it would have been best for us. But when you know you are in the right, and they have a 'screw loose', you ask 'why should I have to leave?
Hartmut
Your neighbor urgently needs to see a psychologist. As to the law, it's stupid.
But if applied a bark-complainer should be required to provide proof that a dog barks annoyingly.
mimm
oh my this neighbour ov yours has major issues be careful with him we had a wierdo about ten years ago now our dogs were no problem i guess cos they wer old but sadly we had our bestfriends baited terrible loss luck my toddler hadnt eaten the bread he throu over the fence people like that are sick in the head they get pent up but i cant fathem there actions maybe move or take your dog with you to places you go if possible some humans suck
ratsenburger
we should introduce the silly clown to one of my dogs I wonder what he would try and do if that happened as he is a 55kg mastif x bull terrier and loves me, my wife and both of my daughters and likes my mum but dislikes every one else! Some people are just idiots simple as that he will get his if he mistreats animals and is unkind to them it will come back and bit him on the ass one day you can pretty much bet on that!
nelly2
ive got myself so scared now if my dogs bark at anything ,i trie to stop them ,i seem to be at them much more now ,do you think its to much for the dogs if im at them all the time now,.
stretch
i think this law is completely fatal as a guard dog is taught to bark at an intruder and i when i have a pet always teach my dogs to protect there my environment
the law does some strange things to try and raise finances to make up for what they have outlawed
so in short no i believe the law is completed and made by fools and the people makimg foolish lasw like this one should be asked to explain it please
Hartmut
That may be fine for you and your security needs, but you should consider your neighbors, who may not like to hear your dog's parking at every passerby on or near your drive-way.
Anonymous
I completely agree, we also have two dogs that our family pets, but they have also been trained as gaurd dogs. They bark as soon as someone pulls up our drive or if some one opens our big gate-we have 2 between the drive and the house. We wouldnt have it any other way-they PROTECT our family. Dogs bark, its part of life although I would be a bit concerned if a dog was just yapping constantly all day as that would probably mean there maybe a bit of neglect going on.
nelly2
didnt realize they had that law where yyou are as i hadnt heard about it till recently
starsong001
Don't know where you live but over 7 years ago when I was in Manukau, New Zealand, the local animal control came over and said they'd had complaints about one of my dogs barking.
Even with the vet cert. to say the dog had been put to sleep over 3 months before the complaint, and my mother saying she had the dog buried on her property, the animal control officers were going to take me to court to have my dog put to sleep.
Everyone has the right to peace, and a dog barking all the time is sure to cause problems. I do think it's totally over the top for animal control officers to be able to take a dog without trying to sort out a solution with the owner first, but it does happen, and has been happening for years.
Fred219
Hi i have a collar that spray's citronella and i put it on my little dog when ever i go out i live in units so can you imagine if everyone had barking dogs. We try to respect our neighbours and this is a simple and easy solution.
Kessa1959
I agree - there needs to be consultation between the affected party, the dog owner and the council. We have a "failed foster" which was surrendered about 4 years ago to the dog rescue I am a foster carer for. His owners were distressed as he was a beautiful much loved family pet which who was just highly strung and high maintenence.
It wasn't that he was bored - they walked both their dogs for 2 hours a day and also did agility with him. The had tried citronella collars, barking collars, barking specialists, keeping him inside when they went out.
They hid treats and kongs around for him to find during the day but he just barks in excitement - at dogs, pushbikes, motorbikes, the postman, noisy trucks etc. Even at puppy preschool he was noted for his excitable barking.
Unfortunately when he was a pup the neighbours children would run up and down the easement next to the house with sticks on the fencing making a noise to make him bark and then years later it was the parents of these children who were complaining - maybe they should have got rid of the kids :)
I know it is frustrating to have a dog barking all the time but we do manage him to a degree however I have more problems with two noisy roosters and a peacock than I do with other dogs nearby.
Geri
They need to offer some sort of solution before going to this extreme. Like a citronella coller or something other similiar item. All dogs bark to a certain extent, especially when you come home they are very excited to see you again.
nelly2
i agree with you .but if a law has been passed [,which hasnt yet] ,doesnt the council h ave to agree or ,can they pass their own law ,as it would be up to councils i would think ,so do the rspa h ave rights over councils i know that the rspa look after the neglected ,and animal rights ,but isnt barking dogs to do with the councils,and we the owners are the ones to make sure our animals ,do the right thing and of course making sure we do not upset our neighbours, i would like your thoughts on this .
Anonymous
Im sorry didnt realise we were in a dictationary state, who the heck do they think they are, Its wrong. Whats next ? will they come and take your new borns because they cry all night? Fight the new laws!!!! Stand up people. I am just shocked at the audacity of the council. What would animal rights and Spca have to say?
dollymay
the power of the council has gone to there heard. people need to get together and fight, they cant beat all of Australia people, but people just except all there rules and regulations, which are getting worse.