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Posted by: SYD

1st Mar 2016 08:52pm

Do you think that our children need to exposed to some of the ideas of the gay lobby at school ? Is this about bulling or has it another agenda!!!


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Luke
  • 3rd Aug 2016 12:23pm

I think the program should be in all educational institutions. Children need to know that it is ok to be who they are. Protecting them from these types of issues only causes more stress as they are not able to discuss these topics. By brining it out into the school system people will become more accepting of other people.

skagaray
  • 21st May 2016 04:55pm

No way. It is a dishonest attempt to tell kids that their gender at birth means nothing, they can be what they feel. That idea messes with the grasp on reality.

Eagleswings
  • 21st May 2016 10:53am

I certainly don't believe this so-called "safe" schools program is safe or beneficial to the children in any way. Young primary school children are being told that if they don't know if they are "gay" then try it. Also given links to sites which shouldn't be accessed by adults, let alone young children. They are also told how to cover their tracks, when viewing these sites. Children need to be taught heterosexual sex education, which is the only natural biological sex. Some minority groups who choose to have a different lifestyle are trying to teach our youngest generation to "do it their way!" It is one thing to choose an alternative sexual orientation, but trying to persuade young children that their way is normal should not be allowed, either by the education department, teachers or most importantly, parents!

iain_lmta
  • 21st May 2016 03:12am

I think it's quite odd that so many people have an opinion based on a media scare campaign of one component out of many hundreds included in the Safe Schools program. Ask yourself if you have actually read the curriculum elements yourself or whether you just reacted to a talkback radio host or a Rupert Murdoch News Limited (Limited News) article.

I'll bet that, other than me, fewer than three people in these forums have been to the curriculum website and read what they claim they're in a flap about.

Your children are not being asked to become gay, lesbian, bi-sexual or transgender. Your children will not be approached in school by a person of an alternative lifestyle in a school classroom and enticed into one or other of the above-mentioned lifestyles.

What they will be exposed to is lessons in tolerance and empathy. They will, as part of KTS (Keeping Them Safe) and peer-support led activities, be exposed to what to do if if encountering people and issues that they do not yet relate to.

Children have to be armed with knowledge and empathy to progress through life. They cannot and should not live a life of ignorance and fear.

Educated and informed children (of any age) are much less likely to fall victim to predators if they know how to deal with situations.

It's only 40 to 50 years that we were labelling southern Europeans and east Asians with extreme names and labels because of our insecurities and fears. We are past (I hope) those generational throwbacks who would resort to abusing people who are different or not mainstream.

And the program barely touches on sexuality aspects ... and, when it does, the material is age appropriate.

The reason the schools should do it? Easy: children get the same lesson together, not an issue trivialised by a religious or social separatist. The same reason we have so many parents who want schools to teach the lessons in child protection and sex education. (There are very few parents who do this role well or even competently. Children should not be doing gender education in fear and ignorance.)

l0lapx
  • 21st May 2016 10:42am
I think it's quite odd that so many people have an opinion based on a media scare campaign of one component out of many hundreds included in the Safe Schools program. Ask yourself if you have...

Well guess what, I have been to the website, I have seen the documentation put out by the instigator of this programme, and she herself admits it HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BULLYING.... It is not about keeping children safe....

Make it 60 years ago, and we learnt to have a backbone,, and guess what we didnt need the gov to step in and protect us, The Australian people accepted us very quickly as soon as they found out we were not here to take their jobs and we were will to pull our weight and contribute to Australian society.

Who is abusing children who are differen ???? This program is abusing ALL children.... They have the right to be CHILDREN and not be wieghed down with information that is irrelevant at an early age..... We have childen in our primary school - we we dont follow every stupid idea of the gov. Our children come from diverse backgrounds, cultures, beliefs, and they play together as CHILDREN without having ADULT stupidity forced on them at an early age.....THIS is another hairbrained scheme from a lunatic,,,, and it will cause more division, more discrimination etc.... They children play they are not interested in sex, religion, cultures they just enjoy the fun they should as children.... I realise I am over simplifying this....but go to a few primary schools and see for your self if the children are carefree, there is no one pointing fingers or isolationing children..... IT IS THE STUPID SO CALLED EDUCATED ADULTS THAT ARE BULLYING ALL CHILDREN

Rainbow Girl
  • 20th May 2016 04:51pm

After reading the comments on this forum I am not sure whether to be terrified or horrified by the responses. I can't believe that this is the Australia that my young daughter is growing up in. I have no doubt about the disgust I feel when reading such bigoted and homophobic nonsense. I hope my child never has the misfortune of meeting any of you.

l0lapx
  • 21st May 2016 10:29am
After reading the comments on this forum I am not sure whether to be terrified or horrified by the responses. I can't believe that this is the Australia that my young daughter is growing up in. I...

sorry Rainbow Girl get real,,, there is nothing homephobic about this, THis is Australia and sexuality belong in the home, not something the is forced on anyone. you have freedom of choice, children have the same..... and this does not beong in the education system..... I guess you have not gone the the actual education site..... since when has pornography had anything to do with children..... I would suggest with great respect that you go the the actual gov site and have a good read of what thes YOUNG children are going to be exposed to...... Glad you are disgusted as it shows you are biased and not thinking and evaluating... Call me bigoted if it makes you feel better,, but it doesnt change the FACTS the this programme is not about bullying and this has been verified by the author of this so called enlightenment..... Also the actual gov website proves this..... Our family and children have gay friends and neighbours and we all get on fine. we keep out bed activities out of public view....... and no child should be taught anything with the parent knowledge...... how would you like it if the gove snuck in anti gay propogand under the guise of bullying.... you would be screaming your head off again, So maybe cool down, have a good read and see if you would like your child to be under this kind of pressure.... NO CHILD whatever their inclinations are should be forced into anything.... THAT IS BULLYING

Rainbow Girl
  • 20th May 2016 04:46pm

Rational, non bigoted parents of children who actually attend QLD state schools made sure that they signed the petition supporting the program. It was an election promise and I am glad that our current government has now stated that they will continue to fund it and work harder to prevent schools who are implementing the program being harassed by what is a small, but noisy, immorally bigoted section of our society.

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gramonaghan
  • 20th May 2016 02:58pm

I am disgusted that a government should even think of subjecting our children to such a program such as this.
Don't we have enough bombarding in the newspapers, and media about gay rights.
Must we have our children subjected to all this at, primary school.
I feel this is an open forum for pedophilia, and will only do more harm than good..

Gweny
  • 20th May 2016 09:46am

I am opposed to this programme.

MTD
  • 19th May 2016 10:54pm

No, I think that school is NOT the place to learn about the Gay issue(s). That is for Parents to decide when a child is ready for these issues. The original intent was about bullying and HOW TO DEAL with it and STOP it. It has been hijacked by the Gay lobbyists for their problem(s) and has nothing to do with bullying. They want their lifestyle to be the norm, which it can never be as mainstream will not accept it. What they do is their own business but why do we have to look at it as normal? Why don't they accept us or have we become the alternative lifestyle?

MTD
  • 19th May 2016 10:51pm

No, I think that school is NOT the place to learn about the Gay issue(s). That is for Parents to decide when a child is ready for these issues. The original intent was about bullying and HOW TO DEAL with it and STOP it. It has been hijacked by the Gay lobbyists for their problem(s) and has nothing to do with bullying. They want their lifestyle to be the norm, which it can never be as mainstream will not accept it. What they do is their own business but why do we have to look at it as normal? Why don't they accept us or have we become the alternative lifestyle?

MTD
  • 19th May 2016 10:46pm

No, I think that school is NOT the place to learn about the Gay issue(s). That is for Parents to decide when a child is ready for these issues. The original intent was about bullying and HOW TO DEAL with it and STOP it. It has been hijacked by the Gay lobbyists for their problem(s) and has nothing to do with bullying. They want their lifestyle to be the norm, which it can never be as mainstream will not accept it. What they do is their own business but why do we have to look at it as normal? Why don't they accept us or have we become the alternative lifestyle?

gdtrue
  • 19th May 2016 07:49pm

so it is not about bullying but being indoctrinated into the homo system; why don't they teach the 3 Rs instead; oh, too hard

Rainbow Girl
  • 19th May 2016 06:06pm

Of course they need to be exposed. Kids should be exposed to everything that society deems normal. My kid's 11. I'm cisgendered but who knows what gender she'll identify with? I don't want her to think that anything is not normal when and if she decides to think about her sexuality. She's had her period for nearly a year now and it would have been ridiculous if I had said, "Sorry kid but I'm not going to teach you anything about reproduction because you're too young to have your period. That's not normal so you don't need to know about it!". Other people's sexuality affects me and my child in no way whatsoever. She accepts that people have different beliefs about a lot of things. She also knows that people are differently abled either physically or mentally. As for the 'danger' that most people say non-cisgendered people represent, it's pretty easy to dispel that nonsense by some quick research. It's older, usually religious men that she has to worry about!

pammam
  • 19th May 2016 04:39pm

I am very much against his program.
The Federal Government agreed to modify it and to allow parents to let their children opt out of it and that was a good idea,
Why should the Labor Gov in Victoria spend extra money to make this compulsory in our state schools?
It is social engineering.
Of course we should oppose bullying of any sort but this is more than that.

GeneralLeigh
  • 19th May 2016 02:54pm

This program sexualises children and has a perverse agenda. It is not about bullying!

l0lapx
  • 21st May 2016 10:11am
Without doubt, the programme sexualises children, it is quite apparent that this programme is being introduced without any consultation with parents. Whilst all my children are grown up, and now...

Agree 100%, this is not about bullying, The inventor of this program has stated this publically.... Children are born GIRL or BOY, they dont need to find out who they are, if they other tendencies let them find out in their own time and way. not have it shoved down every child throat. School should stick to education eg Readin, writting and arithmetic, geograpahy, history, etc etc. sex education belongs at home or like us in late high school for those who wanted.

By the way if this is about bullying, why are they sharing the same toilets????? This country, its leaders, and many citizens have gone loopy and living on another planet... With a PM who goes to a gay pride march [ gotta think about the one] and who want us to embrace Islam because they have contributed SO MUCH to Australian Society..... we need to questions his sanity.... I have never heard him ask Australians to embrace the Vietnamese, Germans, Italians, Greek etc who actually did come here and work from day one and contributed to Australia and Australian Society....... We are seriously in deep sheeet....if more Australians dont wake up and just live with the 'she be jack mate' attitude

KennethS
  • 19th May 2016 05:40pm
This program sexualises children and has a perverse agenda. It is not about bullying!

Without doubt, the programme sexualises children, it is quite apparent that this programme is being introduced without any consultation with parents. Whilst all my children are grown up, and now parents, I would have strenuously objected to any school, introducing a programme that encouraged them to explore sexuality, or promoted as acceptable sexual activities and behaviour that was considered unnatural and both illegal and unacceptable when I was growing up. We should be mindful of the legal age of consent, and any school activities or indoctrination that may encourage sexual experimentation, either hetero or homosexual should be outside the mandate of both the school and the state.

dave7072
  • 19th May 2016 01:29pm

I am totally against this Marxist push to sexualise our innocent children via the mandated 'safe schools' program.

Yafffy
  • 19th May 2016 01:08pm

Definitely not about bullying. This idea will try and conform children to accept lifestyles that they shouldn't have to accept.

Sparkle
  • 16th May 2016 01:17pm

How can it be about bullying? Isn't it actually promoting inclusion of minorities not exclusion? I have no problem with my kids being exposed to the idea (and I am not gay). I want them to learn to treat everyone with respect even if they are so-called 'different'. If they grow up being used to lots of differences between people in society, surely that will create a more tolerant and open-minded bunch of adults in the next generation??

l0lapx
  • 21st May 2016 10:18am
How can it be about bullying? Isn't it actually promoting inclusion of minorities not exclusion? I have no problem with my kids being exposed to the idea (and I am not gay). I want them to learn to...

Sorry Sparkle, agree it is not about bullying.. It is not promoting inclusion of minorities, It is going to confuse young minds and cause more divison.... I do have a problem with schools poking their nose into any area outside the school ciriculum. Children learn respect by seeing it around them, They go to schools with all different cultures etc.... BUT sex is something they learn about at home.... I am not gay, I have gay friends and they are against this.... mainly because children are too young to know, and they should be allowed to find out for themselves in their own time..... We scream loud and long if Christianity is taught in school, which boggles my mind seeing Australia's foundations are Christian/Judaism..... All everyone has to do is treat others as they would like to treated, and they should be learning this at home and carrying it into school..... I certainly dont want my children girls and boys sharing toilets etc. It opens a Pandoras box then will not be able to be closed..... one last point the actual instigator of this lunitic scheme has publically stated this is not about bullying in any shape or form.

PARROT
  • 16th Mar 2016 08:45am

Definetly not. We are always pandering to minorities, I would like to see a survey into how most citizens feel about this. It is a form of bullying, if you disagree with it you will be accused of homophobia.

l0lapx
  • 21st May 2016 10:20am
Definetly not. We are always pandering to minorities, I would like to see a survey into how most citizens feel about this. It is a form of bullying, if you disagree with it you will be accused of...

When our gov makes such a huge change to our education system they should be asking the parents first not making decisions for us like we are stupid.... I think the stupid ones are the one sitting in Canberra especially the MP and Opposition leader and their cohorts who are so out of touch with reality, they are living on another planet and we stupid people pay their salary

SYD
  • 19th Mar 2016 06:19pm
Definetly not. We are always pandering to minorities, I would like to see a survey into how most citizens feel about this. It is a form of bullying, if you disagree with it you will be accused of...

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PARROT
  • 16th Mar 2016 08:45am

Definetly not. We are always pandering to minorities, I would like to see a survey into how most citizens feel about this. It is a form of bullying, if you disagree with it you will be accused of homophobia.

skagaray
  • 21st May 2016 04:56pm
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Agreed, Karatt. It's a new age attempt to deny reality so as to undermine people's attempts to believe in themselves.

karatt
  • 19th May 2016 06:24pm
Definetly not. We are always pandering to minorities, I would like to see a survey into how most citizens feel about this. It is a form of bullying, if you disagree with it you will be accused of...

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