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Posted by: 19chris51
13th Aug 2012 08:27pm
I say we need a Government with "BACKBONE" and I will also say that the Oppositon has not got any BACKBONE either, not tony abbot, not any of them ( no respect for any of them) gillard either (hence no caps) get rid of the lot of them , and start Fresh!!
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CAT17
I am hoping that voters will actually vote for the political party that has policies that will benefit the whole country and not just 'tick a box' because that is who they usually vote for or that is who the family vote for. As voters we are given a responsibility to take voting seriously and not vote for someone because you do or do not like them. This government because of its make up has failed us all and we need to have a responsible government. Bring on an early election so we can get this country back on track!
col001
Depends on what you mean by backbone 19chris51.
The Gillard administration has the lower house treasury benches and control of the senate via the Greens. Makes it hard for the opposition to achieve any ascendancy in political debut.
I think with all that aside Tony Abbott and his team have been very vocal on a number of issues. Just recently it appears asylum seekers will now be processed at Nauru, a coalition policy.
On the other hand I agree with your comment re the government. The problem is in Gillards haste to form government she had to get into bed with left wing socialists. Iam not just talking about the Greens, but also the union movement, which she played a major roll in prior becoming an MP. Bit hard I guess when you have all these people shouting at you.
I have a few drinks with a mate of mine every so often and I know he is a staunch Labor supporter. He's not happy with Gillard and co but he always finishes his conversation by criticising the coalition. He is not the only one that does that. You see I have a sneaking suspicion that he hates what Labor are doing but the alternate has to be as bad because of his political beliefs.
Give Abbott a chance, you never know.
col001
19chris51 No I wasn't being disrespectful to anyone, least of all your Aunt. I actually agreed with your Aunt and threw some other issues on the table. And apparently you agree.
As for the spelling, again no offence intended. I wasn't sure.
I also notice what you wrote in the last paragraph, he is "indecisive, not articulate". That's the first time you mentioned that. That can be a very good persuader in forming your opinion because you want a leader that not only knows what they are doing, but has a decisive plan to do it.
I still believe he deserves a chance, It's not just a vote for Abbott but the whole coalition
I am 56 and live in Queensland, expensive here as well, but in saying all that, and it my not seem so, I do respect your opinion, and that of your Aunt. Lets leave it there.
19chris51
I am sorry I did spell heard wrong( sometimes I get ahead of my self with typing) NO, NO, NO,I just don`t go or make my decisions on LOOKs , if that were the case, there would be not many people in this world I would like, for gods sake , I`ve managed to live 61 years, Housing costs and the cost of living aside, this is not why my Aunt ( I`m a little offended) has this opinion, neither do I , Yes people have different opinions, and I say we are intitled to them, and I agree, corperate greed is the main reason the costs are so high, and no I don`t own a house, could never afford one, I have just moved to Victoria , and this is an expensive state, no need to explain greed,
My opinion, and that of my Aunt (as I said before, different political views usually)
is of great concern to us, and I think that you should respect that as I do your opinion, to which you are entitled, and yes YUCK he is uncouth, does not spesk well, and above all, he in indesisive, not articulate at all.
I really do respect your opinion, its just intirely different to mine.
col001
19 chris51 Read what you said "I have seen him, and head him (in the flesh YUCK)" I assume you mean heard no head. You and I can argue until the cows come home but this is actually what I was talking about. I agree Abbott is not the best looking guy in the world, but you don't vote for someone because he looks good. And as I said Labor have played the game well in polarising Abbott as negative and a naysayer. I will go out on a limb here and say your Labor background (support wise) had an influence on your decision. But also in your defence everyone has made decisions based on past influences , even me.
I'am sorry, but a road scholar does not necessary make them right. They have a right to their opinion but in this case it is of equal value to anyone else's opinion. However I do agree with your Aunt, things are going to be tough for our children and grandchildren, but it's not just political. Costs are soaring with the gap between real wages and the cost of living narrowing. For example our overall power usage consumption is down, some saying we will reach our emission targets without the carbon abatement scheme (carbon tax), but our bills are still high because of the increased costs associated with building new and maintaining existing poles and wires. Housing costs are out of reach of most young people. A lot of this comes back to corporate, you could possibly call it corporate greed.
19chris51
coloo1 Budgie smugglers aside, and you don`t really want me to start on that (finch smugglers) I really do not like Abbot, media aside I have see him,. and head him (in the flesh (YUCK) ) I am only saying what I thought and felt when I saw and heard him.........NOT GOOD...... also I have an 87 year old Aunt who in the past has been a staunch LIBRAL supporter, I was talking to her (not giving my opinion, I used to be very Labor) and her words exactly where, my time is probably almost over, but I shudder to think what this country will be like for my great grandchildren, she said, it is not only Labor, but there is no person in EITHER party I would like to see rule this country, THEY ARE ALL NO GOOD and this comes from a road scholar (Cambridge).
col001
Is it not possiable your feelings towards Abbott have been influenced by comments in the media which have branded him as negative and labeled him as a naysayer.
We must remember Abbott is leader of a right wing conservative government. His opponents are arguably the worst left wing socialist administration this country has seen. As opposition leader Abbott is doing the job he is paid to do, inform the public If the conservatives believe a policy is wrong. That doesn't make him negative or a naysayer, that makes him a person that's prepared to stand up for what he believes (right or wrong). That takes backbone.
We need to understand Australia is still a democracy not a socialist republic. At the moment we unfortunatly have two political parties that stand poles apart and a consciences of opinion is albeit impossible. This gives the impression that Abbott is saying no for the sake of saying no, something Labor has been good at exploiting.
On the other hand if it's the budgie smugglers that has turned you off Abbott, than that's a different story.
CAT17
I agree cool001, Abbott deserves a chance, I think he has done well as Opposition Leader and has certainly got my respect and vote.
My Dad was a Labor man but that is when working class people (my dad was a builder) did vote Labor, but it was a very different party to this one. I think my dad would turn over in his grave if he were here to see what this mob have done.
When I was old enough to vote I was very serious about who was going to have it. I did not follow my Dad!
19chris51
Thankyou for your Honest answer col001, while what your saying I tend to agree with, I really do not like Tony Abbot, he is a weak person, does not have a personality to speak of and comes off wishie washie, actually neither party appears to have any one of any calabar, sorry just my honest opinion, I was a staunch Lador supporter, notice "WAS" I am just so disgusted with THE LOT OF THEM, LABOR & LIBERAL and am not inclined to want to give Abbot a chance. no he is just so ugh