Asylum Seekers
Posted by: CAT17
16th May 2011 01:59am
Where is this problem going to leave us with so many arriving and virtually overtaking our country. Now I have learned that 100's are now being moved out of Christmas Island to our shores to make ready for an influx of arrivals to Christmas Island. This is becoming quite scarey and I wonder how we are going to cope with the number and with their unacceptable behaviour. These people are not refugees and according to an insider from the Detention Centre on Christmas Island, many of them are wealthy, even having Swiss credit cards and plenty of money with them. What are the do gooders saying about that. I have suspected all along that these people are not true seekers of refuge but people who just want to live here and over take our way of life and culture. They do not accept us for who we are they just want to live in a country whose Government bends over backward to their wants Our government does not seem to have Australias best interests in mind when they continuously change their policies to allow more and more arrivals.. I can see bad times ahead for this wonderful country and pray that somehow it will be corrected. My little grandsons are going to be living in a very different Australia, and that is not a good thing.
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CAT17
Hi all I have just come back to this discussion and after reading what you all have written I can't help but wonder why the government does not realise too what is happening to our country. The AFL should not be supplying prayer rooms etc unless the same privledge is given to believers of all faiths who play football. I have never heard a 'behind the scene interview' by a player from the Catholic or Jewish faith. Why are we always bowing to the demands of a small minority. It will be interesting to see how many more Councils will 'hide away' our nativity scenes this coming Christmas. If these people were genuine refugees they would not be paying $1,000 s to people smugglers to get here. Genuine refugees not not have any money. These illegal arrivals are costing the taxpayers millions and will for a very long time. Are they ever going to pay us back for the 'help' they have received ahead of our very own Australians who are sleeping rough and have no hope of getting a home? Why are we expected to house these illegals as soon as they get here. Why aren't the hotels and motels made available to our homeless? Why are they paid more than our own pensioners, unemployed and disabled? I see them in shopping centres (those who have been given residence) spending up big on items that maybe the average Australian family would consider a luxury. No one should be homeless, no one should be without proper financial help in this so called rich country. But haven't you noticed this government has no problem giving away millions to anyone else but there is never money for our own. The amount of money being spent on the illegals could be spent on our hospitals, dental scheme and public housing. It isafter all taxpayers money and shouldn't we have a say as to where the money is spent. Why are we so generous to people who probably have quite enough money to support themselves here. Let them pay rent, or buy a house and not be such a burden to us. May be if we were seeking asylum we would be treated better?
Debs
I tend to agree with you. We are not being racist but protective of our way of life. We cannot keep giving to the world when there are homeless people, people losing jobs and our way of life is going backwards in our own backyard. I read there were people from Sri Lanka. The Tamil and Singalese situation from what I have heard is over there is peace so why are they on the boats ( Australia hands out money easy they know this in these countries) The genuine hardship people are waiting to be processed on a proper system of application for migration waiting sometimes years to be be processed. I think the majority of Australians will agree they need to be processed off shore and in some way a form of non encouragement of illegally going on the boats as a deterrent for others.
Son
I believe that their plan is to to overtake Australia, I also believe they think they are superior to us. Also what makes me sick is how they are coming in, getting away with it when there are legitimate people on a waiting list to come here through the right doors and it will never happpen because the Government doesn't care, they brown nose to other countries. The government does not care about its own people, look what was on TV the other night about people having ot live in cheap hotels because the housing commision homes are given to Asylum seekers, also some have 2 wives and a heap of children and have 2 homes, WRONG I say, look after our own first and our children then when we have a stable community think of others. Common Julia get a back bone and put your foot down, send them back. These people who can pay a fare to get here illegally can get here through the right channels, they have more money than us, it stinks. I just wish the do gooders would back off and think about our own suffering people here.
19chris51
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errolsyd
Here is an update from gov sites .
Did you see the latest from the AFL ? They are now responding to their muslim players and demanding that prayer rooms are supplied at AFL grounds so that muslims can pray 5 times a day to allah? What is going on?? Check out the latest figures on ILLEGAL boat arrivals. So far 2012 - 26 boats = 1971, 2011 - 69 boats = 4733, 2010 - 134 boats = 6879, 2009 - 61 boats = 2849
Then under Liberal gov. 2008 - 7 boats = 161, 2007 5 boats = 148
To sum up 2009-to 2012 so far 290 boats = 16,072 ILLEGALS
2002 to 2008 25 boats = 449 ILLEGALS So where we heading ? Scary isn't
nusanan
I get so angry at the words asylum seekers they had asylum in indonesia when they set off for australia they become ILLEGAL immigrants,and many are wealthy but still use our welfare system,to them we are idiots unfortunatly the nice people who come here the legal way get tied to the same brush and that disturbs them,the people I know who are legal are as upset as we are with a gov that lets in criminals and terrorists,it should at least be no papers no entry.In suburbs with a large muslim population it is not safe to decorate at christmas first our councils will be overun then the states then the nation if we become a republic that will hasten the downfall and allow dictatorship as is in the countries these people left.
errolsyd
Hi nusanan can't agree more, they are ILLEGALS and all we are doing is importing trouble. These people have no respect for our women and our ideals way of life. How come the majority are males? Since 1st Jan 2012 57 boats = 4127 ILLEGALS. Sorry plus 100 + from the latest sinking and ferrying to Christmas Island. Our labor govn. has bugeted for 450 per month for ILLEGALS so I reckon they are at a very conservitave $80,000 per is now $124,800,000 over budget and we have 8 days to go. Serco costs over $1 billion dollars over 3 years ! Cost of rescues $millions. I have read about 6 interviews with jason clare today and not in one did they mention any presence of indonesian assistance even though the boat was only 38 miles from indonesia when this all started.Although I get no satification from the loss of life , we did not invite them here and do not want them here. The Indonesians really have a lot to answer for.
It wasn't long ago that julia gave them over $2 million dollars in the form of 3 patrol boats to them help stop this farce. I wonder which officals now have a great fishing boat amongst their collection?
ninna
I agree with you completely Cat17, we are allowing these unwanted people into our country. They are not genuine refugees & are simply bypassing the rules & regulations that real refugees have to go through. These are people who are not going to integrate & will bring their own culture & problems with them into our communities. They do not qualify through the legal chanels.
If it continues we are going to have serious problems with violence & racial tension similar to what we saw in the Cronulla riots.
The only way we are going to get satisfaction is if we can get a change of government, hopefully at the next election we have a party that has strong policies on illegal immigration & stops the open invitation that currently exists.
In my opinion I feel that Australians are becoming very angry & resentful of Muslims coming in illegaly & being given preference over our own people for accomodation, health & education. This only breeds racial hatred towards them & it will carry over to other cultures & backgrouns. I have to admit that all the problems that have come with boat people has definately started to make me feel racial resentment towards them as a whole which is unfair to the genuine refugees or immigrants.
CAT17
Hi ninna, the problems are starting to creep in now and before we know it there are going to be racial problems as the young people from these very strick families start to want the freedom that is the Australian way. It will not be the first time that racial unrest has been a problem in this country. I pray for my darling little grandsons and this beautiful country they are entitled to inherit. We must stand up for our beliefs and not allow government local or federal take away our culture and beliefs.
Proteus
Well as a footnote, I would add that the so called Malaysian solution is costing us another $250 or so million, and we are going to be taking yet another 4000 of the refugees already in Malaysia? That is not a solution, that's just stupidity.!!
redrobin
Let's see, we send them one and we get back four. THEN we have to support that one and the other four. One becomes five...how on earth is THAT a solution?????
Has Julia Guild lost her marbles?
CAT17
The way this government,( and I use the term lightly-they aren't governing) is going,this country is heading for a recession or similar. The amount of money that has been wasted and spent is out of control. I have been listening to people in the street and shops and they are all wondering where we are headed. Ofcourse there's plent more to come as the Greens dictate their policies regarding asylum seekers. They want to let them all out into the community! They want all coal mining stopped and other disasterous policies. I say goodbye to the Australia we grew up in and pray our grandchildren wont suffer too much as this country changes and not for the best.
Proteus
I have to agree with all of the above, and would also add that recently in one of the Eastern States newspapers, there was an article about asylum seeks now getting ready to sue the Federal government for compensation for their woes and suffering?
When is this all going to end and stop costing the tazxpayers huge amounts of money?
CAT17
Read your reply thanks. What worries me is that at the moment all eyes are on the Carbon tax so ofcourse the focus shifts away from the other serious problems this country is facing. All social services are being stretched to accomodate these people and charities are having to do more and more for our own people who have no homes, and have no chance of getting one as all housing seems to be allocated to the asylum seekers. No one has ever paid for accommodation for our homeless. Could you imagine the government paying for hotel accommodation to house the homeless and needy? The asylum seekers get well paid here, even get hardship money! No wonder they want to invade. The Gillard government's soft approach has caused a long term problem that will in fact change Australia forever. They are trying to "act tough" now with the Malaysian solution but it is all too late. If only Rudd had continued with the policy that was in place.
redrobin
You want the situation to change? DON'T VOTE LABOR. DON'T VOTE GREENS. The "boat people" had stopped completely under John Howard. Within DAYS of Kevin Rudd being elected, the neon light off Ashmore Reef was blinking "enter here" and it has been sending a signal ever since. We need to send a signal to the government that we have had enough. Julia Gillard ignored the signal that was sent in the election- she should have been GONE and all but a distant memory. As long as we have a Labor government, Australia will be in debt and we will have the life taxed out of us.
Juliar Gillard is not the slightest bit concerned about anyone but herself and her self interest. How long are we going to let her destroy Australia? Even her own party is too weak to remove her. They removed Kevin Rudd on the pretext that he was unpopular and she has driven their popularity to the lowest it has been in forty years. How sad. This country was in a great financial position and had been given a wonderful foot up because of the financial management policies of the previous Liberal government, but they have already squandered all of it, and now it's all downhill from here. One has to ask, just how much damage can they do before the next election.....
redrobin
Who told you they were desperate??? They can afford to travel half way around the world! (I can't afford to take MY children on a holiday in the same state)...and there are MANY countries between here and there, why don't they stop somewhere in between? Because Australia is the cash cow and a soft touch.
We need a HECS type scheme for illegal immigrants.
Make them sign up to a debt that they must pay off over time and we will see if the numbers suddenly drop.
I have tremendous compassion for real refugees (my father was one) but not for people who are lawbreakers and opportunists. The REAL refugees are in camps overseas and cannot afford to come here.
Let's get real and stop swallowing the media brainwashing. Think people, think!
This government makes the citizens of THIS country wait years and years for government housing, and even those in desperate need cannot get housing, but come here illegally on a boat and all manner of things are provided absolutely free. Shame Australia, shame!
Bring on the next election..and FAST!
Anonymous
You must remember where they come from they are desPerate people should we send people over there to make their country better ??
CAT17
Hi jan I can undeerstand how you must feel having no help whatsoever and yet as you say if you were a boat arrival you would get everything laid on. We are part pensioners and are starting to" feel" the cost of everything going up. Asylum seekers get a much higher payment than the pension, not to mention all the other financial benefits and even have the nerve to complain! I wonder how much these people will contribute to this country after they get the residency? I can't see them assimulating with the rest of us and will stay with their own kind. Australia will be a very different country culturally and in many other ways from the country we grew up in.
Anonymous
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CAT17
Hi Redrobin, you are right on. I follow each day this Government and I so agree with you that since Labor got in we have gone down hill in every way. They have they messed up our immigration by allowing illegal asylum seekers to overrun this country because of their soft approach. (we had a very good and generous immigration system here in this country), we now have people living amongst us that have no intention of becoming Australian. I am also angry about the amount of money wasted on the school hall debarkle and the pink bat disaster (not to mention the death of 4 young men in that disasterous scheme). This Government splashes out money in "knee jerk" reaction to anything with no real long term benefit to us. This government is the most socialistic almost communistic this country has ever had. I think smoking and gambling are not "good" for us, but seriously do we want a government that acts like a big brother telling us what we should or should not do? Since this government has come iinto power (and it started with Rudd) they have done nothing but "bully" the people (particularly those of us who voted them OUT), spend (waste) money and bring in policies that will make the cost of living almost impossible for some of us. The Greens are another big worry and to watch Bob Browns smirk since the new arrangement in the Senate is almost frightening. The Greens will be running this country and not Labor who sold out the people of this country, by letting the Greens dictate to them. The two Independents Windsor and Oakshot need to take responisibity for the disasters this government is inflicting on us. I pray that some how this Government will fall and that there is a true election with a true government elected by the people. God save Australia!
19chris51
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19chris51
Hi, CAT17, yes I agree with you, but you know what I think there is too many (so called) do gooders out there, including the Government, and yes it makes me sick, they might as well send our Navy over to get them, "COME TO AUSTRALIA, THE GOVERNMENTB IS SO STUPID< THEY GIVE US EVERYTHING" we want. I think that, that is being passed around, and YES LOOK AFTER OUR OWN FIRST and foremost,, give them housing, it is disgusting, and charities ask us to give to OUR homeless, in actual fact, the government should look after them, with housing etc., I am really at a loss to think when it will stop, or how it will stop.
CAT17
Thanks for your reply, I am still concerned with the governments policies on asylum seekers. Seems to me that these people have far more rights to EVERYTHING than our own people. More and more Australians are living rough, they have no where to go and the chance of getting housig is impossible. If you arrive here by boat you get it all. Even the detention centres are clean, warm and safe which is compained about by the asylum seekers. I bet the homeless would be over the moon to have accommodation like that. Julia Gillard and her Immigration Minister are just making things worse with the weak way they are dealing with this massive problem. They say they are taking a strong stand to stop people getting on boats! How come they are talking tough now (not that the smugglers are listening) They should have kept the tough stand that was in place until Kevin 07 rushed in and opened up the trade again. This government has made so many disasterous mistakes and we have to wear it. When this government is thrown out (and it will be) the Ministers will go off to lovely retirements and leave the mess behind. Our grand childfrren will live in a very different Australia.